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Airpulse A100 Review (Powered Speaker)

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Just ordered this speaker, and I have a question. I have Topping D10s and an optical cable. Could that perform better than using USB and the built in dac instead? If not, I could just sell the D10s and use a USB cable instead.
 

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When presented with the choice between optical and USB, for a two-channel system, I always choose optical for powered monitors.

Interesting. Any good reason? I see people saying online that the optical input on this will also be using the internal dac in the speaker. So in that case, there should be no difference? Or am I wrong?
 

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Interesting. Any good reason? I see people saying online that the optical input on this will also be using the internal dac in the speaker. So in that case, there should be no difference? Or am I wrong?
I suppose that is another consideration, but mine is basically to eliminate noise coming from a source that will travel down a metal wire. Especially if using a PC. You could always do optical out from the source, to a DAC of your choice, then to the speakers.
 

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I suppose that is another consideration, but mine is basically to eliminate noise coming from a source that will travel down a metal wire. Especially if using a PC. You could always do optical out from the source, to a DAC of your choice, then to the speakers.
That's a good point, between USB and Toslink, but if I'm not wrong @Phoney wanted to know if it's better to use USB/Toslink or D10s (USB to PC) to speakers via RCA, and so using the D10s DAC instead of the speakers built-in DAC.
In this case, it's possible, but hard to know without hearing/measuring what comes from the speakers. You can't measure the built-in DAC without fully opening the speaker and getting signal from its DAC output, unless its Sub Out sends the full signal and not a low-passed signal.
 
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Sorry for the lack of information.

I meant either PC --> USB --> speaker

or

PC --> USB --> Topping D10s --> Toslink -->speaker

If just using USB will most likely give the same results, I can just try to sell the Topping D10s. I saw someone say that the Optical input will use the internal DAC, so I guess that the D10s brigde sends out a digital signal through Toslink and not an analog signal? I didn't realise that. It does however say on Amirs review of the D10s:

The Toslink can for example be used to break ground loops when feeding another DAC downstream of it.
 

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Sorry for the lack of information.

I meant either PC --> USB --> speaker

or

PC --> USB --> Topping D10s --> Toslink -->speaker

If just using USB will most likely give the same results, I can just try to sell the Topping D10s. I saw someone say that the Optical input will use the internal DAC, so I guess that the D10s brigde sends out a digital signal through Toslink and not an analog signal. I didn't realise that.

OK, so in both cases above, you are using the speaker internal DAC. Unless there's a faulty thing in the path, it should sound the same
The third path I was talking about is the one that makes use of the D10s DAC instead of the speaker internal DAC:
PC --> USB --> Topping D10s --> RCA -->speaker

Compare this one to the other two, and if you don't hear a difference (better sound), you can just sell the D10s and use PC --> USB --> speaker
 
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OK, so in both cases above, you are using the speaker internal DAC. Unless there's a faulty thing in the path, it should sound the same
The third path I was talking about is the one that makes use of the D10s DAC instead of the speaker internal DAC:
PC --> USB --> Topping D10s --> RCA -->speaker

Compare this one to the other two, and if you don't hear a difference (better sound), you can just sell the D10s and use PC --> USB --> speaker
Totally correct and I'll be really surprised if he hears a difference, assuming a properly level matched blind test.
 

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Got this one for $550 brand new today! Really looking forward to trying it out.
 

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In the manual it says this:
47bdbaf89438ec0b373b6f7e2da982b9.png

But when I try to open the zip folder, I just get this:

"Windows can’t open this folder. The compressed is void."

When I try to unzip it, I just get this message:
"The zipped files are empty. You have to copy files to the zipped folder before you can unzip all the files."

I use windows 10. Can anyone try to install this driver to see if they get the same message? The folder says XMOS_audio_driver. You can find the driver for the A100 here:
https://airpulse.com/en/service

Also, do I need this special driver? Because I did try to just plug in the USB normally and my pc automatically installed some kind of driver. They sounded good, but there was some kind of weird whining sound coming from them both when music was played on Roon (Qobuz) using USB (didn't test spotify). It mainly happened with bass heavy songs, atleast where it was the most audible, and it amplified with certain notes. I'm not sure if that can happen because I'm not being able to use the special driver.
 
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Update: The high pitch noise doesn't even happen when I use bluetooth. It also doesn't happen when I play music through Spotify using USB. It only happens playing music with Roon (Qobuz) through USB. So it seems like I need to download their special driver to be able to run higher bitrates properly through USB? Which unfortunately I can't do for some weird reason.

Update 2: It doesn't even happen playing music straight from Qobuz through USB.:oops: So higher bitrates are not causing it aswell. It's just Roon through USB. Even Roon through Bluetooth is fine. Could it be possible to fix this in any way through settings or something else?
 
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My friend install the USB drivers : http://cdn.ventmere.com/airpulse/uploads/2018-08/XMOS_audio_driver_rJqQuI7LX.zip

Use Winrar, it is your PC problem / Windows 10, not the speakers.

It works fine here !

The USB driver also allows for 24 bit 192 kHz !

Interesting. Any good reason? I see people saying online that the optical input on this will also be using the internal dac in the speaker. So in that case, there should be no difference? Or am I wrong?

The are different sound adjustments for each cable/input.

In the manual it says this:
47bdbaf89438ec0b373b6f7e2da982b9.png

But when I try to open the zip folder, I just get this:

"Windows can’t open this folder. The compressed is void."

When I try to unzip it, I just get this message:
"The zipped files are empty. You have to copy files to the zipped folder before you can unzip all the files."

I use windows 10. Can anyone try to install this driver to see if they get the same message? The folder says XMOS_audio_driver. You can find the driver for the A100 here:
https://airpulse.com/en/service

Also, do I need this special driver? Because I did try to just plug in the USB normally and my pc automatically installed some kind of driver. They sounded good, but there was some kind of weird whining sound coming from them both when music was played on Roon (Qobuz) using USB (didn't test spotify). It mainly happened with bass heavy songs, atleast where it was the most audible, and it amplified with certain notes. I'm not sure if that can happen because I'm not being able to use the special driver.
 

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I downloaded it in another way after emailing them! Does this driver work for windows 11 aswell? Seems to.
It works with all Windows the driver.

If you want to keep your Airpulse A100 for 20 years, after you use it, you should close it from the button on the back (while it is opened - and you see the white led in front), not from remote, that way no electrical current will pass through it in standby mode ( it consumes 0.5W in standby ). When you re-open it from the back it will auto-come back to its USB mode (it remembers).

That way the capacitors and other components that have limited lifespan will not be used when you do not use the speakers !
I also recommend to keep the speakers at 0 treble and 0 bass adjustments (audiophile setting) because it is very correctly tunned at those values to show the music in the original form.

If you want a proper subwoofer for it - depending where you are - look for a SVS PB 2000 PRO that reaches 17 Hz at -3db so it should reach 20 Hz no problem. Connect the Airpulse A100 to the subwoofer with the LFE connection and try 80 Hz crossover and volume 15-20% on the sub-woofer.

The PB-2000 PRO has low distortions compared to PB-1000 PRO.

 

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It works with all Windows the driver.

If you want to keep your Airpulse A100 for 20 years, after you use it, you should close it from the button on the back (while it is opened - and you see the white led in front), not from remote, that way no electrical current will pass through it in standby mode ( it consumes 0.5W in standby ). When you re-open it from the back it will auto-come back to its USB mode (it remembers).

That way the capacitors and other components that have limited lifespan will not be used when you do not use the speakers !
I also recommend to keep the speakers at 0 treble and 0 bass adjustments (audiophile setting) because it is very correctly tunned at those values to show the music in the original form.

If you want a proper subwoofer for it - depending where you are - look for a SVS PB 2000 PRO that reaches 17 Hz at -3db so it should reach 20 Hz no problem. Connect the Airpulse A100 to the subwoofer with the LFE connection and try 80 Hz crossover and volume 15-20% on the sub-woofer.

The PB-2000 PRO has low distortions compared to PB-1000 PRO.


Thank you! Very useful information about turning it off. I have a SB-1000 Pro on the way. Will be interesting to try it out with the a100s. Very happy with them, I use a little bit of EQ based on the frequency response supplied here on ASR.
 

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Hello there,

First of all let me bring some enlightenment to this discussion. Phil Jones is a great engineer. Here - why he likes to use small woofers :


These speakers are really really fantastic good in sound quality.

I appreciate empirical evidence too but let me tell you that quality components and the sound they produce is what matters in the end.
Some technical measurements can be taken out of context and will provide an incorrect picture. Moreover flat speakers do not sound the best for human ears, and that is why headphones with harman kardon curve for example may sound better than flat ones.

Some information translated (read):


First of all Airpulse lineup offers 95% of the sound of flagship Airpulse 7001 that costs 14.000 euros for a fraction of that.
Phil Jones is legendary speaker inventor and innovator that made the Airpulse 3.1 that is known as the best speaker in the last 100 years in Japan (275.000 dollars) - 360 degree sound : https://airpulsepro.com/about/timeline

Now they plan the Airpulse A800 that will do 180 degrees with 3 tweeters.


Now, the Airpulse lineup despite being made in Edifier factory - {that is very good at manufacturing (mechanical engineer not audio engineer) but not so good in designing and the biggest speaker company in China that normally produces cheap multimedia speakers} - has a completely different line of production inside the same factory where Phil Jones & the President of Edifier have a joint venture company called Platinum Audio Systems. So basically this is an audiophile lineup with completely different internal design, quality materials & electronics inside.

Proof:

Now more info:
- Airpulse uses under-hung woofers - 99% of speaker companies use cheaper overhung design.

Read : https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/airpulse-a300



- The cabinets are braced inside
- True ribbon twitter 10 times thinner than human hair
- The Horn is designed to avoid reflections on the walls that is why vertically and horizontally is weaker, to be more precise, so this is not a flaw but it is a clear intention by design !



- using Klippel Laser Interferometer :


- Uses internal Transparent cables : https://www.transparentcable.com/pages/how-audio-cables

- Best models are (A80/A100 - with subwoofer output sending everything below 80 Hz to sub and can be adjusted by crossover on the sub to even lower, A300 PRO ) ... while with the first model A200 (discontinued) the music style is too much american bass and A300 is under-powered and has a strange relaxed style that was fixed in A300 PRO)

From Phil Jones :


- I do not believe there is port resonating ( because it is oval in shape, maybe from the plastic material of the port ? ) and the cabinet has professional absorption material inside that should prevent cabinet resonating.



- I do not find them bright, but very clear and transparent and dynamic and i am not deaf :))

- From what Hz are the sub-bass frequencies cut ?

Tear down :

Review page 1 : http://eng.soomal.com/edoc/10100000230.htm
Real-hearing experience page 2 : http://eng.soomal.com/edoc/10100000230.02.htm



One more :
 

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It works with all Windows the driver.

If you want to keep your Airpulse A100 for 20 years, after you use it, you should close it from the button on the back (while it is opened - and you see the white led in front), not from remote, that way no electrical current will pass through it in standby mode ( it consumes 0.5W in standby ). When you re-open it from the back it will auto-come back to its USB mode (it remembers).

That way the capacitors and other components that have limited lifespan will not be used when you do not use the speakers !
I also recommend to keep the speakers at 0 treble and 0 bass adjustments (audiophile setting) because it is very correctly tunned at those values to show the music in the original form.

If you want a proper subwoofer for it - depending where you are - look for a SVS PB 2000 PRO that reaches 17 Hz at -3db so it should reach 20 Hz no problem. Connect the Airpulse A100 to the subwoofer with the LFE connection and try 80 Hz crossover and volume 15-20% on the sub-woofer.

The PB-2000 PRO has low distortions compared to PB-1000 PRO.


One more question, this speaker plays well all the way down to 70hz. I see a lot of different info about the crossover on the sub. Why put the sub at 80hz, when the speaker is already covering the 70-80hz area? There's no issue in having them overlap?
 

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One more question, this speaker plays well all the way down to 70hz. I see a lot of different info about the crossover on the sub. Why put the sub at 80hz, when the speaker is already covering the 70-80hz area? There's no issue in having them overlap?

A very good question.

Watch all these :

The speakers must partially overlap with the sub-woofer to give the impression that the deep bass comes from the speakers themselves and not from the sub-woofer (which should not draw attention to it) !

You do that by using a combination of crossover and the volume setting.

As the bass from the speakers is getting fainter (reduced in volume) as the 5" woofer decreases in frequency, the subwoofer decreases the volume as the frequency rises and reaches the crossover point, so the two compensate each other and give the impression that it is a unitary whole.

-3dB at 62hz & -6dB at 57-58hz

index.php


So the Airpulse A100 below 70 Hz starts to drop in volume. And you need 10 Hz overlap where the sound is the same.
Since the Airpulse is stable (same volume) from 70 Hz to 80 Hz you will use the sub-woofer to overlap that section.

THX also recommends 80 Hz for crossover.

So you can start with 80 Hz and then try 70 Hz, if you consider that the speakers sound better with 70 Hz crossover do that It will obviously be less overlapping. When frequencies overlap their volume adds up and you get an increase in that specific region.

Someone told me, they didn't like when crossover was set to 60 Hz because it felt too disconnected and that more than 20% on a PB-1000 PRO was too loud in a 13-15 sqm room. It is good that you don't have to crack the sub-woofer volume too high because the PB-1000 PRO has lots of distortions at high volumes, unlike PB 2000 pro. And the SB-1000 Pro which has no port is much quieter on low notes compared to the PB version. So probably on the SB you can go slightly more than 20% before it becomes too loud.

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Be sure to see 4 videos above, and position correctly the sub-woofer.
When will you get the sub-woofer to test ?
Did you also get an LFE cable to conect the Airpulse A100 to the SVS ?

Try 60, 65, 70, 75 , 80 Hz and read the conclusions of the SVS link in the previous post.

Please write back some feedback, i am curious what crossover you like more with the Airpulse A100 and what worked best :)
Thank you.

The above graphs show the corresponding total harmonic distortion to the long-term output graphs. Essentially, they depict how linear the subwoofer remains for the corresponding drive level seen in the long-term sweeps. The quantity being measured is how much of the subwoofer’s output is distortion and is shown here as a percentage. The measured performance here is fine, although SVS subs that I have tested in the past tended to have less distortion than what either of these subs could be pushed to. At nominal drive levels, distortion is very good and stays well below 5% above 20Hz on the PB-1000 Pro and 40Hz on the SB-1000 Pro. However, both subs can be pushed into pretty significant quantities of distortion at high drive levels. One interesting feature is that while the PB-1000 Pro has quite a bit more headroom than the SB-1000 Pro, it pays for that headroom with higher distortion levels. This leads me to guess that perhaps the upper bass headroom on the SB-1000 Pro may have been deliberately reduced to give it a cleaner sound for music, whereas the PB-1000 Pro was allowed as much output as could be had since it was more likely to used for film content where harmonic distortion isn’t as likely to be noticed in effects scenes such as explosions and earthquakes. The SB-1000 Pro can be pushed into a hefty level of distortion at lower frequencies, and that is expected since the entire onus of air displacement rests on a 12” driver with 13mm of Xmax, and that will reach its limits relatively early in deep bass below 30Hz.

These graphs neatly illustrate the difference - and advantage- of the heavier-duty driver in the PB-2000 Pro. For those who were thinking, “why get a 2000 Pro for mid-bass content when the 1000 Pros can get just as loud?” Well, here is your answer. The PB-2000 Pro can’t be pushed that far past 5% THD above 20Hz even at the absolute maximum drive level. The PB-1000 Pro, on the other hand, can be pushed past 20% THD in midbass frequencies. The PB-1000 Pro can get as loud as the PB-2000 Pro in mid-bass frequencies, but it isn’t as well behaved for the same loudness levels.

 
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A very good question.

Watch all these :

The speakers must partially overlap with the sub-woofer to give the impression that the deep bass comes from the speakers themselves and not from the sub-woofer (which should not draw attention to it) !

You do that by using a combination of crossover and the volume setting.

As the bass from the speakers is getting fainter (reduced in volume) as the 5" woofer decreases in frequency, the subwoofer decreases the volume as the frequency rises and reaches the crossover point, so the two compensate each other and give the impression that it is a unitary whole.

-3dB at 62hz & -6dB at 57-58hz

index.php


So the Airpulse A100 below 70 Hz starts to drop in volume. And you need 10 Hz overlap where the sound is the same.
Since the Airpulse is stable (same volume) from 70 Hz to 80 Hz you will use the sub-woofer to overlap that section.

THX also recommends 80 Hz for crossover.

So you can start with 80 Hz and then try 70 Hz, if you consider that the speakers sound better with 70 Hz crossover do that It will obviously be less overlapping. When frequencies overlap their volume adds up and you get an increase in that specific region.

Someone told me, they didn't like when crossover was set to 60 Hz because it felt too disconnected and that more than 20% on a PB-1000 PRO was too loud in a 13-15 sqm room. It is good that you don't have to crack the sub-woofer volume too high because the PB-1000 PRO has lots of distortions at high volumes, unlike PB 2000 pro. And the SB-1000 Pro which has no port is much quieter on low notes compared to the PB version. So probably on the SB you can go slightly more than 20% before it becomes too loud.

image



Be sure to see 4 videos above, and position correctly the sub-woofer.
When will you get the sub-woofer to test ?
Did you also get an LFE cable to conect the Airpulse A100 to the SVS ?

Try 60, 65, 70, 75 , 80 Hz and read the conclusions of the SVS link in the previous post.

Please write back some feedback, i am curious what crossover you like more with the Airpulse A100 and what worked best :)
Thank you.




I'm only listening near field as a computer setup, the speaker positioning is already not great (close to a wall), but listening near field kind of fixes that problem a little. The sub will be under my desk around 30cm from the wall, and I have another desk infront of that desk. So around 70cm away from my feet and the front of the front desk. I'm sure this may not be optimal for the best possible sound, but I am a bit limited in my current room regardless. Again, it's just near field listening, and not really loud. I already have a cable for it yes, I had an old sub that I sold. :) My room is around 13 sqm. That's why I chose the SB version, also because of price. I will surely not need it to be loud for near field listening. Do you reckon I should use the small room setting, to trim the sub bass a little? Thank you for your help, I will get the sub in a week or so. :)

And btw, I've tried different speakers like the KEF LSX on my limited and suboptimal positioned desktop setup. None of them sounded as good to me as the Airpulse A100 near field with the limitations of the environment. Very happy with them.
 
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