AI images we have created

[Brian Hall]

I've been trying out a locally installed free open source AI image generator called Fooocus running under Pinokio.

These are not real people of course. Each is created with only a text prompt and takes about 1 and a half minutes to generate. The garbled text gives it away, but there are ways to fix that too.

Here are a couple I created tonight to show what it can do:

 

[SHB]

As a guy who was a CGI/Photoshop artist for over a decade and over 15,000 professional hours as a Photoshop user for world-class clients, you have created nothing.

You told a computer program to create some images for you.

You remind me of the sports fans who refer to their local sports team with a “We”. “Next year, we’re going to win the championship!”

To refer to using an AI image generator as being creative is the height of both hubris and delusion.

Having Gordon Ramsey cook you a meal doesn’t make you a Michelin starred chef.

 

[AA63]

As a guy who was a CGI/Photoshop artist for over a decade and over 15,000 professional hours as a Photoshop user for world-class clients, you have created nothing.

You told a computer program to create some images for you.

You remind me of the sports fans who refer to their local sports team with a “We”. “Next year, we’re going to win the championship!”

To refer to using an AI image generator as being creative is the height of both hubris and delusion.

Having Gordon Ramsey cook you a meal doesn’t make you a Michelin starred chef.

Neither did you unless you whittled the tree and mined the carbon for the pencil, felled the tree and dried the wood for the paper that you then sketched on, engineered the scanner which brought the image into photoshop (which of course you programmed) and were part of the Xerox team when they invented the mouse so that you can use the painty brushes and vector tools to create your images that you were employed to create - unless of course you were also the owner of the world class companies and gave yourself the directions and concepts.

Someone that researches and pick's audio components, measures, adjusts and then decorates his room - is allowed to be proud of how he put it all together without having to have made the music, nor engineer the items - TLDR: chill out. "Created" is just a word - I hardly believe that the op is putting himself on a the same astro-plane as a professional artist.

 

[Brian Hall]

As a guy who was a CGI/Photoshop artist for over a decade and over 15,000 professional hours as a Photoshop user for world-class clients, you have created nothing.

You told a computer program to create some images for you.

Exactly and well duh!

I clearly stated in the post that "Each is created with only a text prompt and takes about 1 and a half minutes to generate".

I'm not claiming any skill at all here, just seeing and showing what current AI image generators are capable of now with fairly good prompts. All I did was tell it what to create, changing the prompt until it created something close to what I was aiming for. Something almost anyone could easily figure out and do themselves.

The point is that being a skilled software coder or a skilled photoshop user no longer means what it used to or holds the same value. I am a retired software developer who created systems with 100s of thousands of lines of code and I'm amazed at the quality of code and even full applications that can be generated in seconds with the right prompting. I would not be wanting to start a career as a software developer or photoshop user now, much less in a year.

Getting angry about that doesn't change the facts about what is possible with free and open source AI models and applications.

Everything is changing very fast. I think it is best to know what is actually possible today with various AI options.

 

[SHB]

Sorry, but I think that people stating that they created something when they wrote a couple sentences and software did the rest is idiotic.

As to the jack ass that said I created nothing, this PDF contains 3 images created from nothing and totally created by me. Software used was Electric Image, Form Z and Photoshop.

The M&Ms Mutant Minis were done for an ad agency. The temple scene and Tea & Warm Beer were personal images created as much for the learning experience as they were for my portfolio.

The M&M image had a budget to adhere to and was done in one work week.The other two each took months of free time to complete and required a lot of experimentation.

You want to create AI slop, go ahead. Don’t expect real artists to care.

 

[Sir Sanders Zingmore]

You want to create AI slop, go ahead. Don’t expect real artists to care.

Real artists care a great deal as they see their livelihoods being destroyed.

 

[Audionaut]

As to the jack ass that said I created nothing

At the very least, you're creating a bad atmosphere and aren't contributing anything to the actual topic, except for a lousy mood.
If you want to show off your amazing Photos - the kind that can only be created with the help of a computer (it's pure CGI) - why not start your own thread?

 

[dan_uk]

Having Gordon Ramsey cook you a meal doesn’t make you a Michelin starred chef.

But if a machine/AI/humanoid can cook me a meal as good as Gordon Ramsey (or even 98% as good), why would I pay Gordon Ramsey ever again....

 

[dan_uk]

I've been trying out a locally installed free open source AI image generator called Fooocus running under Pinokio.

These are not real people of course. Each is created with only a text prompt and takes about 1 and a half minutes to generate. The garbled text gives it away, but there are ways to fix that too.

Here are a couple I created tonight to show what it can do:

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Its amazing how good it is when AI is relatively still new, it's only going to get better and better.

 

[Audionaut]

I've been trying out a locally installed free open source AI image generator called Fooocus running under Pinokio.

What is the difference and advantage compared to images that can be generated by Gemini or ChatGPT, for example?

 

[BlueTunes]

As a guy who was a CGI/Photoshop artist for over a decade and over 15,000 professional hours as a Photoshop user for world-class clients, you have created nothing.

You told a computer program to create some images for you.

You remind me of the sports fans who refer to their local sports team with a “We”. “Next year, we’re going to win the championship!”

To refer to using an AI image generator as being creative is the height of both hubris and delusion.

Having Gordon Ramsey cook you a meal doesn’t make you a Michelin starred chef.

Realising you have become redundant is always tough.

 

[AA63]

Sorry, but I think that people stating that they created something when the wrote a couple sentences and software did the rest is idiotic.

As to the jack ass that said I created nothing, this PDF contains 3 images created from nothing and totally created by me. Software used was Electric Image, Form Z and Photoshop.

The M&Ms Mutant Minis were done for an ad agency. The temple scene and Tea & Warm Beer were personal images created as much for the learning experience as they were for my portfolio.

The M&M image had a budget to adhere to and was done in one work week.The other two each took months of free time to complete and required a lot of experimentation.

You want to create AI slop, go ahead. Don’t expect real artists to care.

LOL. You need some relativity in your life booboo.

 

[sergeauckland]

I suppose this gets to the heart of what it means to be creative. Human endeavour Vs knowledge of how to operate a 'machine'. Artisanal Vs Industrial.

With a new 'machine' such as AI it will take time for us, as a society to understand its benefits, limitations and dangers.

I worry not only about the creative industries, but where it leaves many knowledge workers such as Programmers, Lawyers, Accountants, Engineers, Scientists, Physicians, Journalists, and so on who may find their jobs changing faster than they can cope with.

S

 

[fatoldgit]

I worry not only about the creative industries, but where it leaves many knowledge workers such as Programmers, Lawyers, Accountants, Engineers, Scientists, Physicians, Journalists, and so on who may find their jobs changing faster than they can cope with.

What will happen (and has happened in earlier iterations such as in call center automation) is products/services/art etc get enshitified, the bar is lowered about what we experience from products/services/art etc and this becomes the new norm.

It's the classic AI joke... we humans wanted something to due all the mundane stuff in our lives (clean the house etc) so we could spend more time doing the creative stuff that makes us human but the reality is AI will do all the creative stuff and we will just become lowly paid minders for AI.

Of course the illogical logic is that the tech bros/capitalists see AI as a way to reduce their workforce to increase profit but there obviously comes a tipping point where the workforce is so reduced or underpaid that no one has any money to buy products/services so profit goes down.

The other illogical logic is that when AI starts to replace say junior programmers and senior programmers leave the work force then the pipeline dries up and you have no more programmers (or lawyers,Accountants, Engineers, Scientists, Physicians, Journalists) and therefore innovation dies.

Glad I am retired from my 45+ year programming career... grumpy old bastards like me wouldn't tolerate AI in the work place and so would be first inline to be fired.

Peter

 

[FrantzM]

I suppose this gets to the heart of what it means to be creative. Human endeavour Vs knowledge of how to operate a 'machine'. Artisanal Vs Industrial.

With a new 'machine' such as AI it will take time for us, as a society to understand its benefits, limitations and dangers.

I worry not only about the creative industries, but where it leaves many knowledge workers such as Programmers, Lawyers, Accountants, Engineers, Scientists, Physicians, Journalists, and so on who may find their jobs changing faster than they can cope with.

S

Sharing the same thoughts. I work daily with AI.. it simplifies my work. Yet, I worry about AI. I believe, it won't take long for many so-called knowledge workers, engineers, lawyers, doctors, etc to be replaced by AI.. the question to be asked is ; To what end? More profit? More productivity? To what end?
We are at a crossroad, whether we admit it or not.. The consequences may be dire ..

 

[dan_uk]

Sharing the same thoughts. I work daily with AI.. it simplifies my work. Yet, I worry about AI. I believe, it won't take long for many so-called knowledge workers, engineers, lawyers, doctors, etc to be replaced by AI.. the question to be asked is ; To what end? More profit? More productivity? To what end?
We are at a crossroad, whether we admit it or not.. The consequences may be dire ..

100% and not a case of if but when.

 

[KenMasters]

I was an Art Director, I worked in advertising for a while and then moved on to entertainment properties.

I never considered myself an artist in a romantic sense, I viewed my work pragmatically, I was a commercial artist. I enjoyed and took pride in what I did, but was also aware that most people didn't care about the finer points of what I did and had their own ideas of what worked and what didn't. I learnt to detach myself from the final product, so long as the client was happy.

AI "art" rubs me the wrong way, but having my roots in print advertising and seeing how that went, embrace change or get left behind. People are upset about AI because of the potential implications for their livelihoods. What we really need is a rethink of current economic models and the 9-5 work week in general.

 

[Sir Sanders Zingmore]

But if a machine/AI/humanoid can cook me a meal as good as Gordon Ramsey (or even 98% as good), why would I pay Gordon Ramsey ever again....

Or if an AI can do anything you pay any person to do, why would you pay any person ever again…
And when the AI can do what you do as well as you do it? Who’s gonna pay you ever again.

It’s a slippery slope I tell ya

 

[BlueTunes]

Sharing the same thoughts. I work daily with AI.. it simplifies my work. Yet, I worry about AI. I believe, it won't take long for many so-called knowledge workers, engineers, lawyers, doctors, etc to be replaced by AI.. the question to be asked is ; To what end? More profit? More productivity? To what end?
We are at a crossroad, whether we admit it or not.. The consequences may be dire ..

Great post.

I'm in that same executioners chair, watching the hand slowly creep towards the switch...

I'm not particularly worried about what humans will do because of AI, we always find something to busy our days, but i do worry what AI and its consequences is going to do to society. We are so heavily dependent on a capitalist model that large portions of highly paid employees suddenly becoming U/S is a worry. although in the long term, what fun eh?

Interesting times.

 

[FTB]

But if a machine/AI/humanoid can cook me a meal as good as Gordon Ramsey (or even 98% as good), why would I pay Gordon Ramsey ever again....

Because humans are more important than AI.
Will you really choose a machine over a human ?

I wouldn't want to do business with you...