After Replace Speakers - Lack of Bass

[raindance]

So you bought new speakers, placed them in a different location, and want to compare bass with the old ones? That makes zero sense. First put them where the old ones were and verify that they are working properly. These speakers have plenty "bass" - really mid-bass, but they do pretty well for their size except they can't get loud.

Always compare apples with apples first.

 

[ChaoscripT]

So you bought new speakers, placed them in a different location, and want to compare bass with the old ones? That makes zero sense. First put them where the old ones were and verify that they are working properly. These speakers have plenty "bass" - really mid-bass, but they do pretty well for their size except they can't get loud.

Always compare apples with apples first.

But ... where I wrote that I compared them to my old speakers?
I'm just try to understand why I don't have bass (that this I understand because the position)
They both need to be similar, just these (MR4) with TRS input.

 

[Roland68]

Hi,
So I replaced my speakers, Edifier R1280DB with Edifier MR4, with the specs they are same+- (The frequency with R1280DB is lower).
I also connect my new DAC SMSL D6 to my docking station with USB and to speakers with TRS cables, in my computer I installed SMSL Drivers and set to 384 bitrate.
Another thing, the old edifier were on the table but now I have some table stand for the new speakers.
I have few questions,
1. It's ok that I set bitrate for 384?
2. Now with the new speakers I don't have bass near, but if I go out from the room I hear the bass.

I've attached photos of my desktop table environment.

Regards.

If your room is high enough, a loft bed could be a possible solution. You can put your desk underneath and gain significantly more width and space in the room.
2.1-2.2m height is often enough.

 

[Spkrdctr]

How I can be sure that I can lay down these speakers? (horizontal alignment)

You can lay the speakers down. Give it a try and see how it sounds. Since you are lacking bass compared to treble, if the tweeters are not pointing directly at your ears it may not matter. Try stuff and see what you think. I have had more success with that than anything else in setting up sound systems. You never know when you find a sweet spot for your ears. Experiment!

 

[ChaoscripT]

If your room is high enough, a loft bed could be a possible solution. You can put your desk underneath and gain significantly more width and space in the room.
2.1-2.2m height is often enough.

Not gonna happen
As I rent here not going to change it.
But, you right loft bed is a very good solution!

You can lay the speakers down. Give it a try and see how it sounds. Since you are lacking bass compared to treble, if the tweeters are not pointing directly at your ears it may not matter. Try stuff and see what you think. I have had more success with that than anything else in setting up sound systems. You never know when you find a sweet spot for your ears. Experiment!

Currently the tweeters point direct to me.
But thanks, I will try to lay them down.

 

[MaxwellsEq]

How I can be sure that I can lay down these speakers? (horizontal alignment)

Sorry, but you misunderstood what I wrote. I was not suggesting you lay the speakers on their sides (although there's no risk to the speaker in doing so).

What I was explaining is that speakers with a tweeter vertically above a bass-mid driver should always have the tweeter aiming at your ears; NOT aiming at your stomach and NOT aiming at a point well above your head (this is "vertical alignment").

It's sometimes less important horizontally whether the speakers (stood normally with the tweeter above the bass-mid), are aiming directly at you. Some people prefer to toe-in the speakers so a virtual line from the tweeter crosses in front of them. This this "horizontal alignment" and depends on how smooth the dispersion of the speaker is.

No matter what you do, you must see all of the speaker. You are wasting your time otherwise.

 

[ChaoscripT]

Sorry, but you misunderstood what I wrote. I was not suggesting you lay the speakers on their sides (although there's no risk to the speaker in doing so).

What I was explaining is that speakers with a tweeter vertically above a bass-mid driver should always have the tweeter aiming at your ears; NOT aiming at your stomach and NOT aiming at a point well above your head (this is "vertical alignment").

It's sometimes less important horizontally whether the speakers (stood normally with the tweeter above the bass-mid), are aiming directly at you. Some people prefer to toe-in the speakers so a virtual line from the tweeter crosses in front of them. This this "horizontal alignment" and depends on how smooth the dispersion of the speaker is.

No matter what you do, you must see all of the speaker. You are wasting your time otherwise.

OK got the point, I will try to put them on the desk, below the monitor where I can see all the speaker.
But it will be low so I will need to give that some "tilt" up.

 

[MaxwellsEq]

OK got the point, I will try to put them on the desk, below the monitor where I can see all the speaker.
But it will be low so I will need to give that some "tilt" up.

Unfortunately, yes.

 

[AnalogSteph]

As an aside, the MR4s are decidedly lighter on low end at least compared to R1280Ts:

Still the better speaker overall, but -10 dB in the mid-50s is a bit so-so. You can probably push things a bit via EQ, but be careful, things may fall apart quickly at higher levels.

 

[basscleaner]

First of all, you need to test phase identity of your new speakers for all range. Place two mics at the same distance of speakers (1/2' is sat), play pure sinus at LF, Mid and HF and look at the phase coincidence for them. If it is right (+- 3%), than there are two main causes. First - due to effective LF center change (for instance, even 5 cm shift may be important), the second - if there is height shift. If not, than real cause is in control devices.