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AES 2025 Paper: New targets for the B&K 5128 GRAS 45CA-10

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There is a new AES paper published by Dr. Sean Olive @Sean Olive and Dan Clark @Dan Clark on potential targets for GRAS 45CA and B&K 5128:
A Preferred Headphone Target Curve Defined for the B&K 5128and GRAS 45CA-10 Test Fixtures

ABSTRACT
The Harman around-ear and on-ear headphone target, defined using a GRAS 45CA test fixture with aRA045 (“711”) ear simulator and custom pinna, is often misused with other fixtures, leading to measurement and interpretation errors due to differing acoustic transfer impedances. We compared several headphones on the original fixture and two newer models, specifying calibration and target curves for each to improve accuracy. The purpose was to define Harman target equivalents for these new fixtures that account for differences in their acoustic impedances and produce similar sound quality. Listening tests assessed how similarly headphones sounded when measured and equalized on all three fixtures using these revised targets.

The paper is a bit difficult to follow. But essentially, they measured a number of headphones on three fixtures: the original modified GRAS used by Harman for its listener preference papers. Then on GRAS 45CA with 5000 pinna (what I use). And B&K 5128. Differences were then incorporated as EQ profile and listeners were asked if they thought the translated targets for 5000 and 5128 matched the response of the original research fixture.

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The reference itself was in the randomized test, setting the upper bound of similarity at around 90%. Compared to that, GRAS KB5000 single profile for the tested headphone came closest to the reference. B&K 5128 underperformed it some.

Average of 7 headphones reduced similarity to the reference for both fixtures but much more so for B&K 5128 for Noire X headphone. Results are somewhat similar for Noire XO.

In other words, for a specific headphone you can develop a rather accurate target on the new fixtures. But a generalized one based on averages as developed in the original research, does not work that well, and much worse for 5128.

Here are the differences for the 7 headphones under test with each fixture:
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Visually, we can see that the reference research fixture matches new GRAS KB5000 (read and green) quite well up to about 3 kHz to 4 kHz. Above that, KB5000 shows higher treble response than the reference. Fortunately, in my testing, I don't put a ton of value on upper treble and at any rate, adjust filters by ear.

B&K 5120 is a different story. Its response varies based on headphone and has a very different shape from bass up to 10+ kHz. This makes it impossible in my opinion, to create a target for it which translates well from the research reference.

It is kind of fascinating that the DCA Corina produced almost identical response in all three fixtures below 1 kHz.

Please note that all of this is my interpretation of the paper. Actual presentation in next week (Friday or is it Saturday) at the AES conference in Newport Beach.

This is the first such formal study and much needed research to inform us of variations we need to consider in these fixtures. I may develop a new target to overlay on the existing one I use in my reviews with GRAS 45-CA/KB5000.
 
My personal conclusion has been that measurements of high frequencies in headphones do not translate to individual responses. Fit and seal remain an issue as well. I don't know how one can get around in-ear compensation, or otherwise trying many pairs before settling.

Although I have to say the DCA Stealth was probably the headphone that required almost no tweaking, but my ears grew hot very quickly.
 
It is kind of fascinating that the DCA Corina produced almost identical response in all three fixtures below 1 kHz.
I also noted that they are all dead-similar at 1 kHz.

From the looks of it, it seems that both the KB5000 and 5128 reports that from 3 kHz to roughly 10 kHz is brighter than the original.
 
I am not surprised... since 2021...

Whenever absolute values or free-field compensation are required, for example in safety standards and/or noise-exposure assessments, the results could differ for the same device. That’s precisely the kind of inconsistencies that standards, particularly safety-related ones, are meant to prevent.
 
Interesting results. So there really cannot be expected to exist a general transformation function of the targets, only headphone specific. Is there any explanation, guess or suggestion of the cause of the different behaviour on the three measuring set-ups for different headphones (driver typ, seal, impedance, ...) ?
 
There is a new AES paper published by Dr. Sean Olive @Sean Olive and Dan Clark @Dan Clark on potential targets for GRAS 45CA and B&K 5128:
A Preferred Headphone Target Curve Defined for the B&K 5128and GRAS 45CA-10 Test Fixtures

ABSTRACT
The Harman around-ear and on-ear headphone target, defined using a GRAS 45CA test fixture with aRA045 (“711”) ear simulator and custom pinna, is often misused with other fixtures, leading to measurement and interpretation errors due to differing acoustic transfer impedances. We compared several headphones on the original fixture and two newer models, specifying calibration and target curves for each to improve accuracy. The purpose was to define Harman target equivalents for these new fixtures that account for differences in their acoustic impedances and produce similar sound quality. Listening tests assessed how similarly headphones sounded when measured and equalized on all three fixtures using these revised targets.

The paper is a bit difficult to follow. But essentially, they measured a number of headphones on three fixtures: the original modified GRAS used by Harman for its listener preference papers. Then on GRAS 45CA with 5000 pinna (what I use). And B&K 5128. Differences were then incorporated as EQ profile and listeners were asked if they thought the translated targets for 5000 and 5128 matched the response of the original research fixture.

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The reference itself was in the randomized test, setting the upper bound of similarity at around 90%. Compared to that, GRAS KB5000 single profile for the tested headphone came closest to the reference. B&K 5128 underperformed it some.

Average of 7 headphones reduced similarity to the reference for both fixtures but much more so for B&K 5128 for Noire X headphone. Results are somewhat similar for Noire XO.

In other words, for a specific headphone you can develop a rather accurate target on the new fixtures. But a generalized one based on averages as developed in the original research, does not work that well, and much worse for 5128.

Here are the differences for the 7 headphones under test with each fixture:
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Visually, we can see that the reference research fixture matches new GRAS KB5000 (read and green) quite well up to about 3 kHz to 4 kHz. Above that, KB5000 shows higher treble response than the reference. Fortunately, in my testing, I don't put a ton of value on upper treble and at any rate, adjust filters by ear.

B&K 5120 is a different story. Its response varies based on headphone and has a very different shape from bass up to 10+ kHz. This makes it impossible in my opinion, to create a target for it which translates well from the research reference.

It is kind of fascinating that the DCA Corina produced almost identical response in all three fixtures below 1 kHz.

Please note that all of this is my interpretation of the paper. Actual presentation in next week (Friday or is it Saturday) at the AES conference in Newport Beach.

This is the first such formal study and much needed research to inform us of variations we need to consider in these fixtures. I may develop a new target to overlay on the existing one I use in my reviews with GRAS 45-CA/KB5000.
The variation in headphone response across test fixtures is related to the interaction between acoustic impedance of the fixture and the headphone. The Corina likely has the lowest acoustic impedance (we didn't measure this) being an open-back electrostatic. Closed-back headphones with higher acoustic impedance will vary more across test fixtures...
We also measured the response of the Noire X and XO on listeners using open-canal microphones and observed similar variations at below 400 Hz and higher frequencies (above 3kHz) . I wonder if individual preferences for more and less bass/treble above the Harman target is in part related to this?
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The variation in headphone response across test fixtures is related to the interaction between acoustic impedance of the fixture and the headphone. The Corina likely has the lowest acoustic impedance (we didn't measure this) being an open-back electrostatic. Closed-back headphones with higher acoustic impedance will vary more across test fixtures...
We also measured the response of the Noire X and XO on listeners using open-canal microphones and observed similar variations at below 400 Hz and higher frequencies (above 3kHz) . I wonder if individual preferences for more and less bass/treble above the Harman target is in part related to this?
Wouldn´t it be interesting to measure the acoustic impedance to test/corroborate this ?
 
B&K 5120 is a different story. Its response varies based on headphone and has a very different shape from bass up to 10+ kHz. This makes it impossible in my opinion, to create a target for it which translates well from the research reference.
It's not impossible to create a target for the 5128, but rather it's "impossible" to create a static direct translation from the harman curve to the 5128, expecting every headphones to sound the same, which is what this paper seems to look into.
Keep in mind that the box plots you linked are "how similar is the 5128 to the original Harman research fixture", not "which one do you like more" or "which one is the best".
 
My personal conclusion has been that measurements of high frequencies in headphones do not translate to individual responses. Fit and seal remain an issue as well. I don't know how one can get around in-ear compensation, or otherwise trying many pairs before settling.

Although I have to say the DCA Stealth was probably the headphone that required almost no tweaking, but my ears grew hot very quickly.
I think personalization for individual fit/ear canal acoustics is a good idea beyond giving them a headphone tuned to a target (e.g. HarmaN) where the overall balance is good and free of resonances. There were at least 3 papers on this topic at the AES Headphone Conference in Helsinki including one involving a complicated round-round of tests where different options are ranked until convergence is found. Another one takes 3D scans of your head to derive an individual DF response and then adjustments made in the bass and treble based on listening tests.

I honestly believe a generalized target with 2 shelving filters for adjustment can satisfy most of the personalized use cases.
 
Another one takes 3D scans of your head to derive an individual DF response and then adjustments made in the bass and treble based on listening tests.
I suppose another valid alternative would be to 3D scan your pinnae and outfit a HATS with "your own ears".
 
I suppose another valid alternative would be to 3D scan your pinnae and outfit a HATS with "your own ears".
Well you are still using the acoustic impedance of the ear simulator -- not your own ear canal/ear drum. That is why the Kimio Hamasaki et al, paper that scanned people's heads to derive their personalized DF response required 2 filter adjustments. The scan didn't include their ear canals.
 
Agree. Building an acoustic impedance tube in my dining room as we speak :)
An alternative that might be considered to Schlieper is a "reference volume" calibration similar to what Per and Gunnar used for calibration of their constant displacement probes for ear Z measurement. Memory serving, Schlieper's impedance tube was not very indicative at the very frequencies where human ear Z varies most
 
Well you are still using the acoustic impedance of the ear simulator -- not your own ear canal/ear drum. That is why the Kimio Hamasaki et al, paper that scanned people's heads to derive their personalized DF response required 2 filter adjustments. The scan didn't include their ear canals.
Is the impact of the acoustic impedance of the ear canal&inner ear significant when it comes to variation in over ear headphones? I would expect a large deviation when measuring IEMs of course, but I personally wouldn't know how much the ear sim's impedance effects something like the Noire or HD650 for example. Would that be a deviation in position of a resonance spike in the top octave?
 
We also measured the response of the Noire X and XO on listeners using open-canal microphones and observed similar variations at below 400 Hz and higher frequencies (above 3kHz)
I haven't measured the XO, but the "open" DCA planar designs I've measured were still quite high acoustic Z - indeed, the proof is in the pudding: if output drops in a linear fashion¹ at lower frequencies in the presence of leaks, tautologically the Zout is higher than a design where this is less the case.

1: That is, the FR variation is (relatively) constant versus absolute output level - obviously, in an uncoupled situation, you can also just plain hit the linearity limits of a driver
 
Is the impact of the acoustic impedance of the ear canal&inner ear significant when it comes to variation in over ear headphones? I would expect a large deviation when measuring IEMs of course, but I personally wouldn't know how much the ear sim's impedance effects something like the Noire or HD650 for example. Would that be a deviation in position of a resonance spike in the top octave?
Hammershøi & Møller's "pressure division ratio" is a direct measure of the impact of "canal Z" on headphones - it is calculated by dividing ([open canal headphone measurement]/[blocked canal headphone measurement]) by ([open canal free-field measurement]/[blocked canal free-field measurement]). Or possibly blocked over open, it's been a minute since I read the paper, but the general premise is "how much does the difference of the headphone in sealed and open canal conditions correspond to the difference between sealed and open canal response to loudspeaker/low-Z sources"
 
Hammershøi & Møller's "pressure division ratio" is a direct measure of the impact of "canal Z" on headphones - it is calculated by dividing ([open canal headphone measurement]/[blocked canal headphone measurement]) by ([open canal free-field measurement]/[blocked canal free-field measurement]). Or possibly blocked over open, it's been a minute since I read the paper, but the general premise is "how much does the difference of the headphone in sealed and open canal conditions correspond to the difference between sealed and open canal response to loudspeaker/low-Z sources"
Is the pressure division ratio significant compared to pinna effects?
 
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