advise subwoofer help me .

[pakos]

ciao a tutti, e scusate per il mio pessimo inglese. Sto scegliendo il mio primo subwoofer. ho visto arendal 1723 1s che mi piace così tanto, e vorrei sapere se può stare nella mia stanza.
la mia stanza è 5 * 4 e ha molti mobili.

my audio system is composed like this: amplifier: Nad C328 speakers: Dali oberon 3
can i trust this subwoofer? or at the same price do I find better? thank you

 

[Willem]

You may want to consider two smaller subwoofers for a smoother response. E.g. two Arendal 1961 s1. Alternatively, you could also consider the KEF Kube 10b or 12b. A very compact option would be two SVS micro3000 subs, but these are not nearly as competitive in Europe as they are in the US. DSP room eq will help to smoothen the response even more. See here for a very good option, though a bit of a challenge to implement:

An easier dsp room eq option (though not as good) is the DSPeaker Antimode 8033.

 

[pakos]

2 subwoofer, escono dal mio budget di 1500 € .. Provo a vedere se riesco a trovarne uno usato.
usa solo 1 subwoofer, non andrebbe bene? sentirei enormi differenze?

 

[DanielT]

Google Translate....

2 subwoofers, out of my € 1500 budget. I try to see if I can find a used one. only use 1 subwoofer, wouldn't that be okay? would I feel huge differences?

 

[pakos]

Google Translate....

2 subwoofers, out of my € 1500 budget. I try to see if I can find a used one. only use 1 subwoofer, wouldn't that be okay? would I feel huge differences?

sorry I wrote in Italian

 

[DanielT]

No problem.

Bass, subwoffer frequencies in a normal living room, listening room are trickier to get good with one sub compared to distributing the workload on two or more subwoffers. It has to do with how low frequencies behave in normal listening rooms, living rooms. Room acoustics.

EQ plus subwoffer really belong together. So you can fix the frequency response.EQ applies no matter how good the subwoffer you buy.

See:

Subwoofer / Low Frequency Optimization

Subwoofer / Low Frequency Optimization By Amir Majidimehr [Note: This article was published in the May/June 2012 issue of Widescreen Review Magazine] Do you remember the scene in the movie Stargate where Daniel Jackson decodes the symbols that allow them to open the Stargate to travel to...

audiosciencereview.com

Edit:
One thing you can miss, forget to think about when you happily buy your sub. If you live in an apartment: Neighbors. They may be sensitive to fat subwoffer bass sounds ... or not.

 

[sweetchaos]

See my ‘subwoofer comparison’ thread.

 

[Willem]

Multiple Subwoofer after Geddes

http://www.gedlee.com/Papers/multiple%20subs.pdf

History of Multi-Sub & Sound Field Management (SFM) for Small Room Acoustics

Solving bass problems in small rooms have historically been done with low frequency absorption (ie. bass traps). This article discusses an alternative/complimentary solution using multi-sub and SFM.

www.audioholics.com

MUSINGS / MEASUREMENTS: Multiple subwoofers to reduce nulls. The USB/UFO faithful. And thanks for the blind test submissions!

A blog for audiophiles about more objective topics. Measurements of audio gear. Reasonable, realistic, no snakeoil assessment of sound, and equipment.

archimago.blogspot.com

All in all, in most cases multiple subwoofers give you a much smoother response, and over a wider listening area. The result is less boom and a tighter sound. In addition, adding dsp room equalization also becomes more effective, because the success applies to a rather wider listening area. Two subs gives a big improvement over one, three a bit more, and four just a bit more again. Not all subs have to be the same size: usually one big sub is enough while the others can be quite small. Apparently it is a good idea to have the same type for all, howevr, i.e. do no tmix seeld and ported.
If you want to read more on the important subject of room acoustics, see the famous book by Floyd Toole: https://books.google.nl/books/about..._button&hl=en&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false

 

[Willem]

And don't worry about the Italian - I can read it easily, and speak some. Many of the American brands are either not on the EU market (like Rythmik) or rather more expensive (like SVS). So with tight budget constranits it is worth looking at the KEF Kube series. The small Kube 8b currently sells for 400 euros in the Netherlands, and the bigger Kube 12b for euro 550.

 

[pakos]

Hello and thanks for the reply.
for kef subwoofers the prices in Italy are a bit high compared to those you listed. kube 8b 600€ 12b 899€ .
near my house about 30 minutes by road, there is an SVS dealer , and i was watching sb1000pro (price 699€) maybe i can get a discount.
the Monolith 10 "THX were also recommended to me, but in Italy they do not enjoy a good reputation, especially in terms of assistance.
I'm in a dead end, I don't know what to choose anymore

 

[caught gesture]

Contact this company in the UK, https://www.bkelec.com/. They ship to Italy and the prices you see on the website include UK VAT. You would not pay UK VAT but IVA when they arrived in Italy. I have been using their Monolith Plus for ten years without any problem. It is a beast of a subwoofer. You could get two smaller subs like the P12-300SB-PR well within your budget.

 

[Willem]

Subwoofers are big and heavy, so prices are not as uniform between countries/markets. Also, given current supply problems, prices may vary a lot from one moment to the next, and between dealers. Since Brexit buying from the UK has become problematic for EU customers, given import duty and increased handling charges.

 

[caught gesture]

Subwoofers are big and heavy, so prices are not as uniform between countries/markets. Also, given current supply problems, prices may vary a lot from one moment to the next, and between dealers. Since Brexit buying from the UK has become problematic for EU customers, given import duty and increased handling charges.

I was in contact with them two weeks ago. They have not had any problems shipping to Italy from the UK. You are right though. Brexit has screwed up many things like trade that were very easy before.

 

[Willem]

That would be good to hear, but I know of many other stories (not about subs). Dutch importers and UK exporters are complaining a lot.

 

[Willem]

As for BK subs, I know many people are very happy. Surprisingly, however, not all of their subs have auto on/off. You would have to use a master/slave power strip.

 

[daftcombo]

Uno subwoofer bastera' per cominciare. Hai pensato a utilizzare EQ?

 

[pakos]

Uno subwoofer bastera' per cominciare. Hai pensato a utilizzare EQ?

if you mean eq behind the subwoofer yes. or do you mean an app to set an environmental eq?