ADAM Audio D3V specs price ?

[bennybbbx]

That odd, is this some kind of cost saving measure to not have to include a second signal chain?

In that case I guess its really just the volume knob thats dragging these down for me.

they are very loud when use USB even if the vlume knob is at 10 o clock. to avoid this reduce the volume in windows or smartphone. look also that there is no volume boost active in your smartphone player

I hear white noise on D3v only when 10 cm near. I sit 75 cm away and hear no hiss. use the volume knob is not comfortable at hearing distance 75 cm . make sure when you use analg input remove the USB cable on D3V.

 

[GK0]

they are very loud when use USB even if the vlume knob is at 10 o clock. to avoid this reduce the volume in windows or smartphone. look also that there is no volume boost active in your smartphone player

I hear white noise on D3v only when 10 cm near. I sit 75 cm away and hear no hiss. use the volume knob is not comfortable at hearing distance 75 cm . make sure when you use analg input remove the USB cable on D3V.

I can hear it at a similar distance even with no devices connected and the volume knob set to zero. The noise gets easily overpowered if any fan on my pc kicks in, so its not the end of the world, but since these are my first active monitors if been wondering if this is normal.

 

[Ogunya]

A friend asked me if the D3V has mids as he was reading on reddit the midrange is lacking so I took a very quick measurement to send it to him.

 

[staticV3]

A friend asked me if the D3V has mids as he was reading on reddit the midrange is lacking so I took a very quick measurement to send it to him.

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Nice thinking, thanks for sharing your measurements!

Though please use a y-axis range of about 50dB.

Excessive y-axis range can easily give misleading impressions of flatness, as it does here.

In this case, max SPL of 95 and min SPL of 45 would make sense.

Similarly, please include the legend as well, as it always shows the degree of smoothing applied, which is important context for FR measurements.

 

[Ogunya]

Nice thinking, thanks for sharing your measurements!

Though please use a y-axis range of about 50dB.

Excessive y-axis range can easily give misleading impressions of flatness, as it does here.

In this case, max SPL of 95 and min SPL of 45 would make sense.

Similarly, please include the legend as well, as it always shows the degree of smoothing applied, which is important context for FR measurements.

Ye I am not good at this lol. I used 1/16. Don't look flat at all to me as it is, but for next time I may try to see how what you suggest is done.

 

[staticV3]

Ye I am not good at this lol. I used 1/16. Don't look flat at all to me as it is, but for next time I may try to see how what you suggest is done.

If you have the measurement file saved as .mdat, then you can re-export it with better scales.

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Otherwise, here's the measurement that you took, but with better scaling:

 

[Ogunya]

If you have the measurement file saved as .mdat, then you can re-export it with better scales.

Don't have it. I measured left then right and clicked average. Not even sure if this is a proper thing to do.

 

[bennybbbx]

I can hear it at a similar distance even with no devices connected and the volume knob set to zero. The noise gets easily overpowered if any fan on my pc kicks in, so its not the end of the world, but since these are my first active monitors if been wondering if this is normal.

then you hear very good or live in a area without much ambient noise. I hear street noise a little and i have several speakers and this hiss have the most other speakers too. only the kali lp6 1 is much louder.this is louder as street noise at distance of 75 cm on lp6. I have no problem with PC noise, all fans are 120 mm and rotate at minimum 700 rpm until CPU temperature go over 65 celcius. full stop is not good because get too hot and then need more fan speed.. i reduce the speed so i can not hear it. My PC is 50 cm away. I have a ryzen 5 8600G now. even when play and power consumation is over 80 Watt because of onboard GPU it reach celcius 58 max

 

[holdingpants01]

all of "I hear no noise" or "they're noisy" opinions are rather useless for anyone other than the person experiencing it, as they are extremely subjective and anecdotal by what a person tolerate, notice or even hear because of age related hearing loss, but also by the room and it's isolation from the outside world or by the other equipment that could generate noise in the room like PC fans. Then there's a type of noise, my room is very quiet so I could hear varying levels of hiss in basically all active speakers I tried, but not every one of them was annoying. Pink or brown noise is much more acceptable than white noise, but hum is not acceptable at all. The only way to be sure if it's a problem is trying in the specific room and placement

 

[bennybbbx]

Don't have it. I measured left then right and clicked average. Not even sure if this is a proper thing to do.

normaly left and right should not merge. the measure for bass can not trust in a room. because in reality you hear for kick drum much more bass. the room modes that measures show happen not on kickdrums because the first waves get not reduce by room modes. see my burst result. first is the room mode at 53 hz on left speaker. you see that only later the level go lower. enough for kick drum. and the room modes that boost 160 hz have less transients, because go only after some cycles higher because of room mode. thats reason that automatic speaker measurement always make bass too loud on FR valleys and too silent on FR peaks. here you see how a kickdrum look. first come highfreq then lowfreq 1 cycle only then it decay. thats short enough that room modes can not affect it

this is 53 hz burst with microphone on my hearing position. the D3v have at this frequency a valleybecause of my room mode. but you see in the burst the first cycles at 53 hz have good level. only later get lower

the 160 hz

I get the best results with the d3v and other speakers i notice now when i use a match EQ and use the orignal testpiece as the target . and the match EQ should calculate the Eq so that the testpiece record of the speaker sound much more near same as original. this is the result the match EQ get und in compare to calibrate headphone sound better as arc 4. not too much bass as with arc 4. because the match eq see how much bass the recordet kick drum really have. it is also ok for bass play because seem ears like transients and if later the bass more decay doesnt matter for me

the mfreeform allow also easy change the smoothing .change the smoothness knob and klick equalize. and with the range knob you can choose the strength of the EQ. 24 db was normal. when reduce it to lower as 24 db then less EQ is used. it can work phase linear with latency or minimum phase wirth no latency .there are more match EQ plugins. ozone, smart eq

 

[Ogunya]

normaly left and right should not merge. the measure for bass can not trust in a room. because in reality you hear for kick drum much more bass. the room modes that measures show happen not on kickdrums because the first waves get not reduce by room modes. see my burst result. first is the room mode at 53 hz on left speaker. you see that only later the level go lower. enough for kick drum. and the room modes that boost 160 hz have less transients, because go only after some cycles higher because of room mode. thats reason that automatic speaker measurement always make bass too loud on FR valleys and too silent on FR peaks. here you see how a kickdrum look. first come highfreq then lowfreq 1 cycle only then it decay. thats short enough that room modes can not affect it

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this is 53 hz burst with microphone on my hearing position. the D3v have at this frequency a valleybecause of my room mode. but you see in the burst the first cycles at 53 hz have good level. only later get lower

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the 160 hz


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I get the best results with the d3v and other speakers i notice now when i use a match EQ and use the orignal testpiece as the target . and the match EQ should calculate the Eq so that the testpiece record of the speaker sound much more near same as original. this is the result the match EQ get und in compare to calibrate headphone sound better as arc 4. not too much bass as with arc 4. because the match eq see how much bass the recordet kick drum really have. it is also ok for bass play because seem ears like transients and if later the bass more decay doesnt matter for me

the mfreeform allow also easy change the smoothing .change the smoothness knob and klick equalize. and with the range knob you can choose the strength of the EQ. 24 db was normal. when reduce it to lower as 24 db then less EQ is used. it can work phase linear with latency or minimum phase wirth no latency .there are more match EQ plugins. ozone, smart eq

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I actually do those quick measurements to check overall what is going on in the low end when I hear a problem and nothing more then this I guess as I don't PEQ.

Example1: When I got the Focal sub6 I heard severe build up on a sub frequency, which was not that crazy before with a smaller sub I was using. I measured and found more then 10db build up on a room mode so I closed the port with foam and the issue was gone. Sometimes for me room mode ringing is gone only with a 6db hipass filter, which I build on my own, but I do close ports here and there.

Example2: I bought cheap monitor speakers to change damaged 5in1 system in a place I visit once a year. I got Samson M50 and when I played them they sounded strange in the low end. Below you can check what happened when I closed the port, there is a bass switch on the back. First picture is with the port opened and the switch on/off. Second is with the switch on and the port closed.

 

[bennybbbx]

I actually do those quick measurements to check overall what is going on in the low end when I hear a problem and nothing more then this I guess as I don't PEQ.

Example1: When I got the Focal sub6 I heard severe build up on a sub frequency, which was not that crazy before with a smaller sub I was using. I measured and found more then 10db build up on a room mode so I closed the port with foam and the issue was gone. Sometimes for me room mode ringing is gone only with a 6db hipass filter, which I build on my own, but I do close ports here and there.

Example2: I bought cheap monitor speakers to change damaged 5in1 system in a place I visit once a year. I got Samson M50 and when I played them they sounded strange in the low end. Below you can check what happened when I closed the port, there is a bass switch on the back. First picture is with the port opened and the switch on/off. Second is with the switch on and the port closed.

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in REW you can on left side click on +or - to zoom so you can see better what happen , or use mousewheel. to pan the display press right mouse button or trackball button and move the mouse. when you try with close or open port you should also check distortion. because most speakers that are not designed for closed port get then high distortion, because driver is too weak. i hear on focal and kali lp6 when i close the port in the mesure tone which i use always 256 kb that they distort in bass.

the samson M50 is a rear port speaker. seem it is better when they are away more than 50 cm from the backwall. your speakers are very near to backwall so close port help for you. for me it help not. my desktop is more than 50 cm away from backwall.

 

[bennybbbx]

all of "I hear no noise" or "they're noisy" opinions are rather useless for anyone other than the person experiencing it, as they are extremely subjective and anecdotal by what a person tolerate, notice or even hear because of age related hearing loss, but also by the room and it's isolation from the outside world or by the other equipment that could generate noise in the room like PC fans. Then there's a type of noise, my room is very quiet so I could hear varying levels of hiss in basically all active speakers I tried, but not every one of them was annoying. Pink or brown noise is much more acceptable than white noise, but hum is not acceptable at all. The only way to be sure if it's a problem is trying in the specific room and placement

I have a sound level meter. it show 30 dba at lowest level also when i have it very near to tweeter or woofer and the D3v volume full up and connect analog after the t.racks mini dsp. the noise come mostly from the t-racks mini dsp but is below 30 dba measured on woofer or tweeter.

if somebody have a sound level meter that can measure 30 db (most begin at 34 db) and d3v show more as 30 db then something is wrong with the connecting. there are also some guys in the t-racks thread that report huge noise of it. when i reduce the volume in d3v then noise is much reduce. so the d3v have more dynamic as the t.racks mini dsp . I test full right you need not move the volume knob full right. it is over 90 db loud when you put the knob to the larger dot. in the list of hiss is measure 10 cm away. i measure 1 cm away and reach not 30 dba. maybe we should veryfy if gk0 have other powersupply . on my powersupply stand not adam audio. it is a intertek 4007202 24 V 1.5 A 110-240 V

 

[holdingpants01]

I have a sound level meter. it show 30 dba at lowest level also when i have it very near to tweeter or woofer and the D3v volume full up and connect analog after the t.racks mini dsp. the noise come mostly from the t-racks mini dsp but is below 30 dba measured on woofer or tweeter.

if somebody have a sound level meter that can measure 30 db (most begin at 34 db) and d3v show more as 30 db then something is wrong with the connecting. there are also some guys in the t-racks thread that report huge noise of it. when i reduce the volume in d3v then noise is much reduce. so the d3v have more dynamic as the t.racks mini dsp . I test full right you need not move the volume knob full right. it is over 90 db loud when you put the knob to the larger dot. in the list of hiss is measure 10 cm away. i measure 1 cm away and reach not 30 dba. maybe we should veryfy if gk0 have other powersupply . on my powersupply stand not adam audio. it is a intertek 4007202 24 V 1.5 A 110-240 V

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that's what I was saying, this doesn't tell anything, it's noticeable and/or annoying or not, whatever the number

 

[Ogunya]

it is a intertek 4007202 24 V 1.5 A 110-240 V

Hey Benny, do you have the knowledge and tool to measure how much amps the Adam D3V can draw from the external power supply? I have a smaller linear power supply rated for 1.2amp max on 24v and I am interested in testing if there is a sound difference.

 

[bennybbbx]

Hey Benny, do you have the knowledge and tool to measure how much amps the Adam D3V can draw from the external power supply? I have a smaller linear power supply rated for 1.2amp max on 24v and I am interested in testing if there is a sound difference.

I have test with 1 channel and play kick drum very loud until i hear distortion a little, there happen not less distortions as when play with 2 channels. so the 1,5 amp are enough. and if you hear no strange noise then your power supply is ok. When play 1000 hz sine tone power supply need give more power because the peak is reach more often per second as with 40 hz. but in reality with music it happen not that play such loud 1000 hz sine tones. i not test it until distortion with sine tone because it is really loud then also with earplugs.

in the past you write Meanwell 24v 2.5a .

ADAM Audio D3V specs price ?

here can see how i record the audio examples for d3v. to have perfect phase align in stereo. you need switch the snap to grid 1/2 bar or 1 bar on your audio software. I use 3 mono tracks in DAW and the 2 wav files are put as see in screenshot. Tempo need set to 118 so Bar grid snap work...

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and if you not do audio records and blind test then i think it is impossible to hear correct diffrences. because sound get lot diffrence when sit few cm more left or right or more back or a little rotate in front of speaker. try out move a little during nearing

 

[Ogunya]

I have test with 1 channel and play kick drum very loud until i hear distortion a little, there happen not less distortions as when play with 2 channels. so the 1,5 amp are enough. and if you hear no strange noise then your power supply is ok. When play 1000 hz sine tone power supply need give more power because the peak is reach more often per second as with 40 hz. but in reality with music it happen not that play such loud 1000 hz sine tones. i not test it until distortion with sine tone because it is really loud then also with earplugs.

ADAM Audio D3V specs price ?

here can see how i record the audio examples for d3v. to have perfect phase align in stereo. you need switch the snap to grid 1/2 bar or 1 bar on your audio software. I use 3 mono tracks in DAW and the 2 wav files are put as see in screenshot. Tempo need set to 118 so Bar grid snap work...

www.audiosciencereview.com

and if you not do audio records and blind test then i think it is impossible to hear correct diffrences. because sound get lot diffrence when sit few cm more left or right or more back or a little rotate in front of speaker. try out move a little during nearing

I will not risk the linear supply, but I found an interesting filter, which accepts 5-24v and up to 20amp. It has super caps and filtering stages, first time I see something like this. I will ask a friend to visit me for a blind tests. Here is how this box looks.

 

[bennybbbx]

I will not risk the linear supply, but I found an interesting filter, which accepts 5-24v and up to 20amp. It has super caps and filtering stages, first time I see something like this. I will ask a friend to visit me for a blind tests. Here is how this box looks.

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this look not as a power supply that have AC in and DC out. what the name of it is ecactly ? what filter you mean ?. the large 4R7 are inductors are 4.7 µH. maybe it is a small power supply filter for guitar pedals that can be stacked. For guitar pedals is high filtering usefull. but they have only 9 volt. the thing you have seem have 4 outputs . if it can do 1.2 ampere this is maybe mean for all 4 outputs. so dont connect to the D3V maybe output give only 0.3 ampere which is enough for guitar pedals. you see in the middle output and input for DC. here i guess need plugin in a powersupply. with the output you can stack them so can use 8 or twelve

you can blind tests do alone with that easy. see video how it work.

 

[Ogunya]

It is a power filter, they name it purifier or whatever. It is from Aliexpress. I will feed the Meanwell to it for the Adam tests. Probably it won't make any difference, but who knows. Name on Aliexpress: CNC Case 5V-25V 20A Suitable for Switching Power Supply and Linear Power Supply Sound Card DAC Amplifier .

 

[bennybbbx]

It is a power filter, they name it purifier or whatever. It is from Aliexpress. I will feed the Meanwell to it for the Adam tests. Probably it won't make any difference, but who knows. Name on Aliexpress: CNC Case 5V-25V 20A Suitable for Switching Power Supply and Linear Power Supply Sound Card DAC Amplifier .

this you can use. you need plug the adam powr suppky correct for +/- to the input. then you need a correct cable to the adam d3v. but i dont believe that it change something in sound if you hear no strange noise with no audio play. you can record audio without change microphone pos and speaker pos and volume and compare the files with headphones in the foobar 2000 ABX test. if you then choose 8 times correct version then you can sure there is diffrence. or upload soundrecord, then all can test if they can hear a diffrence