Active Room Treatment (ART) by Dirac

[beatelund]

DPR-16 $4000

But the new hyperion serie seems to only support 2 subwoofers. Hope they can change/fix that soon after release

 

[RenPa]

Now that Arcam DLBC issues have been fixed and knowing that to get Art you must have DLBC license, I hope that Harman Luxury will add ART option for us AVR21/31/41 receivers owner since Denon and Marantz have Art option available for their current line of products. Hopefully marketting logic willl not prevail to force us to buy a new receiver if we want Art. Anyway, at least DLBC give now it full potential which not so bad!! (very good in fact)

 

[beatelund]

Now that Arcam DLBC issues have been fixed and knowing that to get Art you must have DLBC license, I hope that Harman Luxury will add ART option for us AVR21/31/41 receivers owner since Denon and Marantz have Art option available for their current line of products. Hopefully marketting logic willl not prevail to force us to buy a new receiver if we want Art. Anyway, at least DLBC give now it full potential which not so bad!! (very good in fact)

This AVR line is long time dead in dsp developement. So no chance for ART

 

[EWL5]

Now that Arcam DLBC issues have been fixed and knowing that to get Art you must have DLBC license, I hope that Harman Luxury will add ART option for us AVR21/31/41 receivers owner since Denon and Marantz have Art option available for their current line of products. Hopefully marketting logic willl not prevail to force us to buy a new receiver if we want Art. Anyway, at least DLBC give now it full potential which not so bad!! (very good in fact)

The older RZ50 and newer RZ30 have DLBC capability now and yet there is no "coming soon" for ART on Dirac's page other than StormAudio (already available), Marantz, Denon, and AudioControl. I would not hold out hope that ART is coming to the older Arcam units.

Dirac Live ART - Active Room Treatment - Dirac

Dirac Live ART - Active Room Treatment , calibrates your speakers as a unified system and uses each speaker’s strengths to create unmatched clarity.

www.dirac.com

 

[Ciobi69]

For now it should be Marantz and denon only for avr

 

[NanoGuidingStar]

For now it should be Marantz and denon only for avr

You forget Audiocontrols' new hyperion series, which have 2 processors and 1 AVR, will all support ART.

 

[dlaloum]

Now that Arcam DLBC issues have been fixed and knowing that to get Art you must have DLBC license, I hope that Harman Luxury will add ART option for us AVR21/31/41 receivers owner since Denon and Marantz have Art option available for their current line of products. Hopefully marketting logic willl not prevail to force us to buy a new receiver if we want Art. Anyway, at least DLBC give now it full potential which not so bad!! (very good in fact)

Sadly, Harman has a history of getting rid of its development engineers...

They absorbed Lexicon, used that team to develop the Harman & JBL processors of the next generation, then got rid of them....

Then they absorbed Arcam, had a new team set up to develop the Arcam and Synthesis processors.... I have a feeling most of those were moved on in turn.

Now they have purchased Sound United - including Denon and Marantz - there's a whole team of very competent engineers there....

My guess is they don't have the team that developed the Arcam/JBL current range any more. The D&M team will finish integrating ART on their kit, and then they may get assigned to update the Arcam/JBL gear.

One wonders what team developed the MA series from JBL...
The top of the Synthesis range now has a Trinnov based setup... no longer Dirac based

Hard to read the tea leaves here! But Harman's history of letting brands die on the vine (Lexicon, Harman), does not bode well.

 

[Ciobi69]

You forget Audiocontrols' new hyperion series, which have 2 processors and 1 AVR, will all support ART.

too expensive for me sadly, but you are right

 

[RenPa]

Then they absorbed Arcam, had a new team set up to develop the Arcam and Synthesis processors.... I have a feeling most of those were moved on in turn.

During my saga around DLBC option not working above v3.4.4 in Harman Luxury lines of receivers, a source in Arcam UK confirmed that the engineer who programmed AVR21/31/41 series left the company long before January 2025 when Arcam finally began to try to find a solution. Dirac DLBC v3.13.9 finally fixed the problem 2 years after my first email about it...Harman Luxury told me that it would have been easier if I had contacted them before Jan. 2025!! I was in contact with Dirac since more than a year by then!

Hard to read the tea leaves here! But Harman's history of letting brands die on the vine (Lexicon, Harman), does not bode well.

That's what scared me.

too expensive for me sadly, but you are right

for me too, imagine Storm or Trinnov...

IMHO the big problem for us mere mortal it is impossible to verify if it is true to say that actual DSP/CPU capabilties in our receivers can or can not process the filters generated by Art option. So Harman and other can always pretend that it is not possible reason why you will need to buy a new receiver...which will not happen soon in my case.

 

[dlaloum]

During my saga around DLBC option not working above v3.4.4 in Harman Luxury lines of receivers, a source in Arcam UK confirmed that the engineer who programmed AVR21/31/41 series left the company long before January 2025 when Arcam finally began to try to find a solution. Dirac DLBC v3.13.9 finally fixed the problem 2 years after my first email about it...Harman Luxury told me that it would have been easier if I had contacted them before Jan. 2025!! I was in contact with Dirac since more than a year by then!


That's what scared me.

for me too, imagine Storm or Trinnov...

IMHO the big problem for us mere mortal it is impossible to verify if it is true to say that actual DSP/CPU capabilties in our receivers can or can not process the filters generated by Art option. So Harman and other can always pretend that it is not possible reason why you will need to buy a new receiver...which will not happen soon in my case.

Dirac have stated a number of times that a processor capable of dlbc, should be capable of ART.

So when they say that an avr with dlbc support could not handle ART, we will recognise it for the bs it is.

 

[EWL5]

Dirac have stated a number of times that a processor capable of dlbc, should be capable of ART.

That may be true of the Denon/Marantz units but I don't think it applies across all brands.

Ultimately it depends on the maximum MIPS a DSP board can handle. The 2021 PAC units are probably running fairly "long in the tooth" DSP boards that keep the cost of these units down, for example.

 

[smile nya]

Denon/Marantz art available now! Run!!

 

[Ciobi69]

looking for feedbacks on art , enjoy it guys

 

[Daka]

just got email - its here!
Anyone has got any discounts?

 

[NanoGuidingStar]

just got email - its here!
Anyone has got any discounts?

Wait for Black Friday

 

[DutchJay]

In the early days the discount was 30%, last year only 20%, I would not be surprised if the give no discount on art at all this year. really anxious to hear what people think!

 

[jtatknox]

Set it up, bass seems tighter as described but also louder than DLBC alone. Used same measurements.

 

[NanoGuidingStar]

I’ve heard it said that StormAudio models use a far more powerful DSP than other brands, capable of handling higher‑precision and more complex ART filter calculations. As a result, even though the license fee is the same at USD 299, with the same speaker configuration the ART results calculated by StormAudio will differ from those of D&M—the former being noticeably superior.

Can anyone confirm this claim? If it’s true, then shouldn’t the pricing of ART be differentiated according to the performance of different AVRs

 

[jtatknox]

For me since I can't afford Storm hardware I am just comparing to DLBC and asking whether it's worth it for the improvement if any.

 

[Oddball]

I’ve heard it said that StormAudio models use a far more powerful DSP than other brands, capable of handling higher‑precision and more complex ART filter calculations. As a result, even though the license fee is the same at USD 299, with the same speaker configuration the ART results calculated by StormAudio will differ from those of D&M—the former being noticeably superior.

Can anyone confirm this claim? If it’s true, then shouldn’t the pricing of ART be differentiated according to the performance of different AVRs

Storm has better DSP so theoretically could do better. But ART should be calculating filters, DSP implementing them, and don't recall Dirac saying there is ART maxi and ART mini. Also seen a video on Storm calibration where they state there is 500 filter limitation and that some users could hit that and have to use them more rationally i.e. where they count the most. In short - don't really know the answer.

Gene from Audioholics has both Storm 24 and AV-10 so might spill some beans eventually.