Not really sue what to tell out of all this.
Ah. I read your comment as it potentially being too complex originally but I now see your point about having too many options.
we even calculated what is the optimal setup for winter months when humidity in the flat goes low due to central heating.
Impressive! I made a joke in the MQA about fine tuning audio setups for temperature as being overkill, but if you did this, more power to you!
not feeling compelled with ART as so little information is available and at the end can't see what the ultimate outcome would be.
Before my Trinnov, I had the HTP-1 and for *me* the DLBC didn’t do much. In a way, I think ART may simplify the 200 hours of subwoofer positioning and room treatment by using some active correction to get you closer to ideal. The better your room, the less valuable ART will be.
more processing horsepower wouldn't necessarily yield improvements,
I agree with that statement 100%. The paradox is that this is exactly why Trinnov hasn’t increased the CPU power of newer processors. They don’t need more horsepower.
Dirac and Trinnov (among others) use minimum phase and mixed phase filters, but the result can be working much much harder to produce a similar result a couple milliseconds faster. Trinnov's hardware has impressive GFLOPS but the fact that they need it could indicate their architecture is a poorly optimized mess.
With Trinnov, I do have the option to choose when and where my IIR and FIR switch. Likewise, Trinnov has a CPU load setting, but it’s designed to have enough CPU to handle 48 total channels.
The inefficiency is prepaying for CPU headroom. Everyone forgets that Trinnov had a basic version of their optimized running on the Sherwood R972 (which I owned also).
I have yet to see evidence that their code is sloppy.
Glad you have Trinnov. Hope it serves you well. I am super happy with my low end AV-10. Wile Trinnov will have more flexibility, cant imagine what exactly would be missing from my set up as really maxing it up.
The AV10 is far from low-end. I had the HTP-1 before hand and Dirac is superb. The more your speakers fall into perfect positions and the more your room is treated and sized up, the less benefit you get from Trinnov. I have pointed out that the point of diminishing returns starts quite early. Based upon the hundreds of hours of optimization, your setup probably sounds better than mine!
The reason I say I own Trinnov is that when I say it’s really great, ignoring price, I say that from first hand experience.
Your software logic doesn't apply to new buyers as you only bought your unit once. You aren't paying anything for a new one. In fact, the older the unit, the better the deal in that regard.
That’s my point. The older the unit, the better the deal. That’s why many Trinnov owners don’t feel “reamed.” Newer prospective buyers need to assess their needs.
Other than waveforming from a few years back, what great new software has arrived?
Big one is probably giving everyone an extra 4 channels for free.
Does the Altitude support Sony 360 (MPEGH) sound like the newer D&M units, including the three floor speakers Sony units support or the Sony 360 upmixer?
www.audioblog.iis.fraunhofer.com
I don’t have any MPEG-H content to test.
As for Sony upmixers, I had the ZA5000ES which uses Sony’s stereo mic for 2D soundfield optimization which was great. IF I knew about the AZ line, there’s a real chance I would have gone that route as my upgrade instead of Yamaha to HTP-1 to the Trinnov.
Along the same lines, I have had the Yamaha CX-A5100 and Trinnov doesn’t have CinemaDSP features.
I have had the HTP-1 and Trinnov doesn’t have integrated loudness nor an integrated BassEQ Database support.
Every setup has some tradeoffs but having actually owned a number of different systems, I still ended up with Trinnov as the best setup for the content I watch.
Does it have a mode comparable to StormXT to integrate all three major format speaker layouts together?
No? Perhaps it's starting to lag behind a bit.
You wouldn’t say that Sony, Marantz, Denon, Anthem, StormAudio and Trinnov are lagging behind Yamaha who have CinemaDSP, would you?
There are features like center lift on Sony’s and Yamaha’s which aren’t on Marantz or Denon. Storm added this less than a year ago, but I am not sure if it requires Center Height or if it can use your front heights like Yamaha, Sony can. Trinnov 3D remapping can also help with this.
What I can say is that the Dirac Full Range/DLBC the HTP-1 doesn’t give me the same immersion as the Trinnov. How much better the Storm Audio is over the HTP-1 for Atmos is a different question.