Active Room Treatment (ART) by Dirac

[Dj7675]

I’m not sure. It does feel a bit too cheap, which makes it seem somewhat suspicious. I paid using Google Pay.

I don’t see how they can sell the license less than Dirac Black Friday price. But who knows!

 

[napfkuchen]

I am not very familiar with this site, but I went ahead and ordered the A1H license.

Nice, but you should not post order details online ...

 

[andyc56]

I don’t see how they can sell the license less than Dirac Black Friday price. But who knows!

Flavio has said elsewhere that Texas HiFi is not on their reseller list.

 

[kawauso]

Flavio has said elsewhere that Texas HiFi is not on their reseller list.

I see. In that case, it might be a good idea to be prepared for a chargeback.

 

[jhaider]

Any pre/pro with DIRAC ART with at least four XLR outs outside of the Storm Audio stuff?

For an active speaker setup.

HTP-1 now!

 

[dlaloum]

HTP-1 now!

For the lovers of XLR outputs we now have Marantz AV10, AV20 (and shortly AV30?), Monoprice HTP-1, Denon A1H (subs only), and of course the StormAudio and Hyperion AVP's.

Objectively for 99% of setups I don't see the point of XLR! although I do like the positive locking connection... I am also fond of Neutrik connectors to connect speakers to power amps... much much nicer than banana plugs! but outside of pro gear, rather rare.

 

[jhaider]

For the lovers of XLR outputs we now have Marantz AV10, AV20 (and shortly AV30?), Monoprice HTP-1, Denon A1H (subs only), and of course the StormAudio and Hyperion AVP's.

Of those, IIRC only Storm and Monoprice offer PEQ and loudness compensation. D+M offer neither. (Not 100% if AudioControl has PEQ or not.) Hyperion appears to be further crippled, unfortunately, with no Auromatic.

Objectively for 99% of setups I don't see the point of XLR!

Well, one person referenced active speakers. If the speakers have balanced inputs it makes sense to match them.

Also, many immersive systems use remote amps. We have a long 16-channel snake going from AVP to remote amp rack, for example.

 

[dlaloum]

Of those, IIRC only Storm and Monoprice offer PEQ and loudness compensation. D+M offer neither. (Not 100% if AudioControl has PEQ or not.) Hyperion appears to be further crippled, unfortunately, with no Auromatic.


Well, one person referenced active speakers. If the speakers have balanced inputs it makes sense to match them.

Also, many immersive systems use remote amps. We have a long 16-channel snake going from AVP to remote amp rack, for example.

For those missing "Loudness" on D&M gear - there is a "Loudness" feature associated with the Dolby Mixer/Decoder, which also has optional Volume Compression for late night use...

So all is not lost! (yes I would prefer a proper Fletcher-Munson loudness feature, but this isn't too bad)

PEQ is a nice to have - effectively with a differing user interface, Dirac Live RC provides an equivalent (with some limitations, in terms of how much boost/cut it will implement)

No argument that the HPT1 has a particularly attractive feature set...

 

[NanoGuidingStar]

Does anyone know how many ART filters cross terms HTP-1 have?

D&M can use up to 98 ART filters cross terms, Stormaudio units have different ART filters cross term count.(100~500, I guess)

 

[jhaider]

For those missing "Loudness" on D&M gear - there is a "Loudness" feature associated with the Dolby Mixer/Decoder, which also has optional Volume Compression for late night use...

I understand that to be a normalization feature and not volume-dependent equalization.

Or do D+M have “Dolby Audio Processing,” which seems to be a dumbed down version of the old Dolby Volume. DV could be used without the leveller (compressor) but DAP forces them together. See https://www.jbl.com.my/on/demandwar...ynthesis Dolby Processing Modes_v4_4AUG20.pdf.

 

[TimoJ]

Does anyone know how many ART filters cross terms HTP-1 have?

D&M can use up to 98 ART filters cross terms, Stormaudio units have different ART filters cross term count.(100~500, I guess)

The HTP-1 has no filter limit, like Denon/Marantz has. My current 7.3.6 setup has 240 cross term "filters" or what ever that number means.

 

[tifune]

The HTP-1 has no filter limit, like Denon/Marantz has. My current 7.3.6 setup has 240 cross term "filters" or what ever that number means.

Will I need to re-run measurements for install?

 

[TimoJ]

Will I need to re-run measurements for install?

With the HTP-1? After doing ART firmware update (and ART licence activation) you need to do new Dirac calibration.

 

[EWL5]

I see. In that case, it might be a good idea to be prepared for a chargeback.

Even the Dirac CEO has chimed in:

https://www.avsforum.com/posts/64373064/

 

[smygolf]

From Dirac homepage

 

[kawauso]

I’ve sent a cancellation email to Texas HiFi.
It turned out to be more complicated than I expected.

 

[Oddball]

The HTP-1 has no filter limit, like Denon/Marantz has. My current 7.3.6 setup has 240 cross term "filters" or what ever that number means.

Great to see ART being implemented wider. Always good for us to have a choice and kudos to Monoprice for upping the number of filters. Can't be a bad thing for sure.

Have not been following HTP-1 for long time - I would hope that by now it is stable and worry-free? No pun intended, just an honest question.

 

[TimoJ]

Have not been following HTP-1 for long time - I would hope that by now it is stable and worry-free? No pun intended, just an honest question.

HTP-1's ART firmware was released as a public beta. There may still be some issues that our testing didn't show, we can't test every combination. But in my system it has been stable.

 

[neRok]

Even the Dirac CEO has chimed in:

https://www.avsforum.com/posts/64373064/

F-Y'all-I: I started a "general thread" about these "licenses" — https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...as-hifi-—-probably-a-scam.68330/#post-2475928

 

[kawauso]

I’ve just received a refund confirmation from my credit card company. Honestly, I’m relieved.