I think you do. Not even sure if ART will not override your support settings if you extend them too low.
If you have some graphs, that would help.
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Active Room Treatment (ART) by Dirac
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If you have some graphs, that would help.
ry watching a movie with the LFE +12 dB shelf as soon as you can!
It can be hit-or-miss with things like Hans Zimmer music videos, though, since some of them mix musical content into the LFE channel (lol).
I did change the front speakers , they are very dynamic with low distortion as they are active with 1250w and 101db of sensitivity, the blade performed very well as well , but I had to monetize and they are for sale , I got 2 18 inch ported subwoofer too and 2 others will be added soon
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These look very interesting. What are those?
I Bought them used, they have a 15cn890 And a 15s430 BMS ,they are very crazy speaker in terms on spl and low distortion
I was missing movement and I got that back last night. I separated my 5 speakers into their own groups and both subs as well. I supported the left side with left side speakers and vice versa. Center not supporting anything but supported by all. I set both subs to support at -24 in all situations and enabled the 20hz bypass everywhere except the center. All speakers are supporting themselves at -24 as well and then I have the rears supporting fronts at -18 and vice versa. Once again I thought I had it pretty good with Audyssey and directional bass. Now the envelopment in 2 channel is about the level I had with atmos (no heights so not really “atmos” but atmos) and audyssey. I swear my rears are playing, it’s so awesome! Atmos/multichannel is just nuts now, the movement around the room is wild. In one of the guides I read (giomania) there was discussion of directional bass, I basically followed the advice and I’d say it’s spot on.
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The drivers are used, but did you build the enclosure yourself?
@smygolf Some amazing person just showed up!
Need to spin up rew ...
i did only the subwoofer that are not in the picture, i did buy the whole front speakers already made luckily
High sensitivity Big woofers, a lot of watts - My kind of guy
I don not have any experience of BMS coax but their woofers are Great !
18N862 and JBL2269 has the same perfomance and can be dropped in 4645C.
But BMS are cheaper and a newer driver.
Fun fact is that 18N862 can also be used for IB installations.
The real issue isn’t whether one likes Dirac ART or not. Clearly they have aced it with this one. But these receivers we buy and fully own already have the linear FIR taps MIMO capable filter slots built into them, yet those slots are locked exclusively for Dirac. If their DSP is really that good, why not let users try creating their own calibrations and compare to that of Dirac's? One can then happily choose to pay for it whatever the price.I made a lightweight list of people who seem to be using or enjoying ART, based on kawauso’s casual observations.
If you’d like anyone added or removed, feel free to let me know.
ART Lovers Club
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We all know what happened with Audyssey after (and with massive effort) we could have access to their "exclusive" filter slots...It's a sad joke that as owners we only have access to a basic 5-band graphic EQ (not even parametric EQ) and they even block that for the subwoofer so as not to risk any good manual results by making bass calibration impossible. That was what as consumers we had for nearly 2 decades.
Corporate gatekeeping is very real, and unfortunately there are still some dedicated voices that relentlessly defend it and pile onto the few people who try to challenge it and make things better for users.
Respectfully, please remove me from the spreadsheet. I understand the list may seem “harmless” but I do not see the value in you tracking who you think enjoys ART.I made a lightweight list of people who seem to be using or enjoying ART, based on kawauso’s casual observations.
If you’d like anyone added or removed, feel free to let me know.
ART Lovers Club
I believe it far more polite to start a poll on a new thread. No need to track individual’s responses and list them. It’s unsettling, to be honest.
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Happy to hear you found my initial experience with ART interesting to read! I am not sure how much value I can add with a Follow-up on my experience with ART but I can gladly do it. The most interesting part is probably the choice of putting all four subwoofers at the front wall instead of spreading them out in the room and why this works so much better for me. Not sure when I will find the time to write a little bit about it. Maybe tomorrow, we will see.
Measurements are important, but I completely agree that listening should be the final judge.Happy to hear you found my initial experience with ART interesting to read! I am not sure how much value I can add with a Follow-up on my experience with ART but I can gladly do it. The most interesting part is probably the choice of putting all four subwoofers at the front wall instead of spreading them out in the room and why this works so much better for me. Not sure when I will find the time to write a little bit about it. Maybe tomorrow, we will see.
It also makes sense that you switch between full-band correction and correction up to 300 Hz depending on the content.
Your setup with all four subs placed along the front wall sounds both unique and visually impressive.
I’m looking forward to reading more details tomorrow.
i actually got 4 18n862, the best driver i ever hadHigh sensitivity Big woofers, a lot of watts - My kind of guy
I don not have any experience of BMS coax but their woofers are Great !
18N862 and JBL2269 has the same perfomance and can be dropped in 4645C.
But BMS are cheaper and a newer driver.
Fun fact is that 18N862 can also be used for IB installations.
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I also agree on large PA woofers with plenty of amplifier power. Combined with ART I can't get enough from turning up the volume because of the live concert kick in the chest feeling vs. keeping the volume in check to prevent hearing loss.
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all ported ahah, not worried about infrasonic, they are the perfect sub for me, and they are efficient, one of the most important thing
You gonna us them in sealed or ported cabs ?
No i am Not jealous
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