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Active Room Treatment (ART) by Dirac

I’m really looking forward to hearing your wife’s reaction tomorrow.

Also, try creating a preset with the LFE channel boosted by +10 or even +12.

It’s pretty incredible.

:D I'm sure that's wild, but it'd be too much for me, +3/4dB is my sweet spot for both music and film.
 
:D I'm sure that's wild, but it'd be too much for me, +3/4dB is my sweet spot for both music and film.
+10 dB is one of the best things I’ve discovered since joining ASR.
Once you save it to a Quick Select, you can switch it with a single button.
 
Can´t help but notice the Lian Li "fishbowl" PC case. :D
Almost! It’s actually the NZXT fishbowl PC.
The one with Lian Li fans is this fishbowl PC.
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I have a Denon AVR-X3800H.
I already have DIRAC Live and Bass Control installed and calibrated.
Yesterday, I purchased ART on the Black Friday sale.
Do I have to run the calibration again?
Ty!

@Flak
 
Thus far I've not seen any Black Friday deals on the AV20, unfortunately. Might have to wait for an AV30. I am keeping my eye out though.
 
I have a Denon AVR-X3800H.
I already have DIRAC Live and Bass Control installed and calibrated.
Yesterday, I purchased ART on the Black Friday sale.
Do I have to run the calibration again?
Ty!

@Flak
No, you should be fine with the measurements you have - assuming you took all measurement positions originally.
 
Anyone here that has a Denon X3800h and is getting excellent results with ART? I'm interested to know if your ART calibration is using all the filter taps in your AVR or if it is not.
 
Anyone here that has a Denon X3800h and is getting excellent results with ART? I'm interested to know if your ART calibration is using all the filter taps in your AVR or if it is not.
I'm only 5.1, but not using all taps and it's working great. More taps seem to be needed for high speaker counts with a lot of support between many groups.
 
Anyone here that has a Denon X3800h and is getting excellent results with ART? I'm interested to know if your ART calibration is using all the filter taps in your AVR or if it is not.
I believe both the X3800H and the A1H have 94 filters.
Since I prefer fewer support speakers, even with a 7.4.6 setup I'm only using 68 filters, so there's plenty of headroom.
Even if you want to increase the number of support speakers, assigning more filters to the LCR should work without any issues.
 
I have a Denon AVR-X3800H.
I already have DIRAC Live and Bass Control installed and calibrated.
Yesterday, I purchased ART on the Black Friday sale.
Do I have to run the calibration again?
Ty!

@Flak
No, if your previous project has valid and sufficient measurements.
 
+10 dB is one of the best things I’ve discovered since joining ASR.
Once you save it to a Quick Select, you can switch it with a single button.
And you can always use it as your Fletcher-Munson, late night adjustment curve....
 
I'm only 5.1, but not using all taps and it's working great. More taps seem to be needed for high speaker counts with a lot of support between many groups.
Thank s great! I'm running a 5.4.2 setup at the moment. I may add 2 more height channels in the near future. Glad to hear the X3800H works great with ART. Thanks for the feedback.
 
I believe both the X3800H and the A1H have 94 filters.
Since I prefer fewer support speakers, even with a 7.4.6 setup I'm only using 68 filters, so there's plenty of headroom.
Even if you want to increase the number of support speakers, assigning more filters to the LCR should work without any issues.
Good to hear. I'm running a 5.4.2 setup at the moment with plans to upgrade to a 5.4.4 setup in the near future. Sounds like the X3800H handles ART's advanced logarithm just fine. Thank you for the feedback. Truly appreciated.
 
While ART is often believed to shine only in large multichannel systems, it can also optimize room wave behavior in a simple 2.0 setup:

Hi Flak, this is good to hear, of course. I've been waiting patiently for ART for a couple of years. You had educated me that with my 2 large floorstanding speakers (VMPS Supertower III), Base Control would remove a lot of bass from my main speakers and send it to subs if I added any subs. This is why I chose not to get any subs in the last two years. You had mentioned I could mitigate this with the BC crossover, but it wasn't an ideal solution for me since my main speakers could probably reproduce bass better than most subs.

BUT! Now that ART is here, I want to get a couple of subs and add them to my system since ART will probably work better with 4 speakers reproducing bass rather than two.

If you could please confirm, though, that ART will distribute bass "equally" among my two main speakers and two subs, and not just reroute the bass to the subs.
 
Hi Flak, this is good to hear, of course. I've been waiting patiently for ART for a couple of years. You had educated me that with my 2 large floorstanding speakers (VMPS Supertower III), Base Control would remove a lot of bass from my main speakers and send it to subs if I added any subs. This is why I chose not to get any subs in the last two years. You had mentioned I could mitigate this with the BC crossover, but it wasn't an ideal solution for me since my main speakers could probably reproduce bass better than most subs.

BUT! Now that ART is here, I want to get a couple of subs and add them to my system since ART will probably work better with 4 speakers reproducing bass rather than two.

If you could please confirm, though, that ART will distribute bass "equally" among my two main speakers and two subs, and not just reroute the bass to the subs.
ART doesn’t really use a traditional “crossover” concept.
It works more like a shared low-frequency workload among all bass-capable speakers.
So, your mains don’t “lose” bass the way they would with Bass Control.
They still contribute, but the system may let the support speakers take more of the load if that gives smoother response.
It’s not an equal 25/25/25/25 split or anything like that, though.
Just let ART do its thing and don’t worry too much about that part.

If you want to add subwoofers, the best cost-effective option is to start with one high-performance sub.
You can always add more later, but a single strong unit already makes a huge improvement with ART.
 
ART doesn’t really use a traditional “crossover” concept.
It works more like a shared low-frequency workload among all bass-capable speakers.
So, your mains don’t “lose” bass the way they would with Bass Control.
They still contribute, but the system may let the support speakers take more of the load if that gives smoother response.
It’s not an equal 25/25/25/25 split or anything like that, though.
Just let ART do its thing and don’t worry too much about that part.

If you want to add subwoofers, the best cost-effective option is to start with one high-performance sub.
You can always add more later, but a single strong unit already makes a huge improvement with ART.
Thanks for the reply.

I already have two passive subs + external amplifiers to power them with. I will add them in soon. They are indeed high performance, not just woofers, but true subs

Trying to decide where to put them. In general, should the two subs be put at opposing ends of the room firing towards each other, is it better to have them firing 90° offset?
 
Thanks for the reply.

I already have two passive subs + external amplifiers to power them with. I will add them in soon. They are indeed high performance, not just woofers, but true subs

Trying to decide where to put them. In general, should the two subs be put at opposing ends of the room firing towards each other, is it better to have them firing 90° offset?
Put each subwoofer in the spot where it performs at its best.
In most rooms, this usually ends up being one of the four corners.
ART does use some of the subs’ upper-bass output,
but I don’t think you need to worry much about the firing direction.
 
ART doesn’t really use a traditional “crossover” concept.
It works more like a shared low-frequency workload among all bass-capable speakers.
So, your mains don’t “lose” bass the way they would with Bass Control.
They still contribute, but the system may let the support speakers take more of the load if that gives smoother response.
It’s not an equal 25/25/25/25 split or anything like that, though.
Just let ART do its thing and don’t worry too much about that part.

If you want to add subwoofers, the best cost-effective option is to start with one high-performance sub.
You can always add more later, but a single strong unit already makes a huge improvement with ART.
I have been totally avoiding these type of computerized electronics due to their type of bass handling.
Now y'all presented this ART and explained that it's bass handling is different.
Dang, now something else to add to next years stereo do list.
I run either 2.2 or 4.2. My subs are custom built by me & have a FR of 20 Hz (published as 20 Hz, maybe less, not published as less for the raw speaker) to 80 Hz (that is the published high of the raw speaker). My mains have an FR of +- 2 Db 26 Hz-20 KHz with no EQ.
So, finally, something that divides up the bass in a way that I think would be correct.
 
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