Well what can I say BDWoodyBecause we don't have enough cost effective DAC's to choose from already?
Personally, I'm happy to see the shift from only measuring electrons to measuring actual sound.
Exactly!That was pure fraud along the lines of Social Security but with less means of obfuscating the ponzi scheme in the long run.
These headphones are much more like bottled water or "luxury" liquors - there is some value in the product... but the packaging is 90% of both the cost and the ultimate appeal. What's inside is often practically worthless by comparison. I'm sure you could take a $20 headphone, wrap it in $300 worth of aluminum and leather, put it in a $100 velvet-lined wooden box and sell them all day long for $3K. Most reviewers would rave, audiophiles would swoon, and Amir would switch to the 650's in about the same time.
"They just dont care with measurement..probably."
Headphones are boring. More power amps and high performance, DACs, please.
Stick around, but DACS aren't really the most interesting products to review, simply because we've already reached transparency and arguably cost effectiveness. Headphones & speakers is where it's at to create some real differentiation and the sensible place to focus your efforts on choosing good examples.Headphones are boring. More power amps and high performance, DACs, please.
P.S. I notice that my $100 contribution to the cause goes unacknowledged. If that is more than 115 dB below your detection threshold,
let me know. I might send more.
I can agree with you on that too.Again, no. They make, advertise and sell vastly overpriced headphones. I'm pretty confident every customer got exactly what they paid for. I think you need to look up what a scam is vs what this is, which is a triumph of marketing over engineering.
If I was to try and sell a pair of $5 plastic supermarket earbuds for $1500 nobody would buy. Why do these sell? Why are forums not full of people baying for blood on receiving their massively overpriced, underperforming Abyss headphones?
PS, for the record, what this is in reality is exploitation. Not fraud.
It is still good to measure them, if only to confirm there are no issues.Stick around, but DACS aren't really the most interesting products to review, simply because we've already reached transparency and arguably cost effectiveness. Headphones & speakers is where it's at to create some real differentiation and the sensible place to focus your efforts on choosing good examples.
So you get better SQ with the Bose QC 35 for $200 (plus good ANC) than with this for $3,995. Even if it is also true that one gets more precision with a $100 Swatch than with a $10,000 Rolex imho this is really nuts.
A better comparison would be Apple products. You can spend ten grand on an a top speced Apple workstation that performs no better than a two grand PC. Is it a scam? No the consumer is willingly paying for the extras, branding aesthetics etc. If that gets you outraged why stop at the company? The consumer is the only real enabler, and in the case for audio products the community is cheering on the decision.That was pure fraud along the lines of Social Security but with less means of obfuscating the ponzi scheme in the long run.
These headphones are much more like bottled water or "luxury" liquors - there is some value in the product... but the packaging is 90% of both the cost and the ultimate appeal. What's inside is often practically worthless by comparison. I'm sure you could take a $20 headphone, wrap it in $300 worth of aluminum and leather, put it in a $100 velvet-lined wooden box and sell them all day long for $3K. Most reviewers would rave, audiophiles would swoon, and Amir would switch to the 650's in about the same time.
No doubt will be drastically improved with tubes and quantum fuses.But then again, this is a high end audiophile product, and as such, worth every penny. Even without EQ, it will provide an ample amount of distortions, satisfying even the most demanding audiophile.
True story.
A better comparison would be Apple products. You can spend ten grand on an a top speced Apple workstation that performs no better than a two grand PC. Is it a scam? No the consumer is willingly paying for the extras, branding aesthetics etc. If that gets you outraged why stop at the company? The consumer is the only real enabler, and in the case for audio products the community is cheering on the decision.