I asked how they (Japanese) look up a word they didn't know (Kanji characters).
The first answer was "phonetically".
But... It's a new symbol to you, and you don't know how it sounds. Then what? How do you find it?
That had them stumped for a while, since they already know all they need to know for the daily grind.
Ours (Roman) is alphabetically arranged. Theirs, I assumed (correctly), was not.
Finally, someone pulled out a dusty old dictionary, and remembered the order of presentation:
Number of strokes it takes to write the main symbol (one to twenty nine), then the stroke count of the radical by which it is modified.
He said it was a real pain to find anything.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_kanji_by_stroke_count
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_kanji_radicals_by_stroke_count