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A Thread Dedicated to Cirrus Logic CS43131

Tell said:
That one has a PEQ though.
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They claim an EQ function via an app called Walk Play but as already said, it's not clear to me if it is something done and stored in the dongle hardware (in this case the app should be a proprietary interface to the specific dsp used) or is something like a system wide software eq like Wavelet.
After a bit of research i found the app official site:
http://szwalkplay.com/
and at very first sight it appears to me as a software eq app you can install on android and use with any audio player.
Then there is a list of usb dongles and iems:
http://szwalkplay.com/case.asp
but I don't understand if they are dsp enabled devices that the app can link to (so dedicated to it) or just a random list of devices for whatever reason.
This is the best i can understand, i already own too much dongles and I'm not interested in integrated PEQ so I'll pass here.
 
I have a usb-c dongle that is supposed to work this "Walk Play" app - but I cannot get access to the EQ functionality within the App and I cannot seem to register or login which seems to be a requirement to get access to these features. I have emailed them so I will update if it works but I have a feeling this App is just a way to get peoples email address and/or mobile phone numbers
 
Jeromeof said:
I have a usb-c dongle that is supposed to work this "Walk Play" app - but I cannot get access to the EQ functionality within the App and I cannot seem to register or login which seems to be a requirement to get access to these features. I have emailed them so I will update if it works but I have a feeling this App is just a way to get peoples email address and/or mobile phone numbers
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Thank tou for taking the risk, I was curious since from an advertizing picture you can see a screen where it shows a cirrus logic logo and some device info, so wondering it having some kind of hardware detection. But in line with your concerns i avoided installing it just for the sake of curiosity.
 
Jeromeof said:
I have a usb-c dongle that is supposed to work this "Walk Play" app - but I cannot get access to the EQ functionality within the App and I cannot seem to register or login which seems to be a requirement to get access to these features. I have emailed them so I will update if it works but I have a feeling this App is just a way to get peoples email address and/or mobile phone numbers
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I had not followed this thread in a while... Until @mc.god pointed the above discussions about the "Walk Play" app :) : I bought a JCally JM20-Pro--actually what appears to be a TTGK 'TT39510B01' module (CB5100 bridge + CS43131)--and I was able to register and install the "Walk Play" app on a Android DAP. It does work with the JM20-Pro.
See post on the JM20 thread: https://audiosciencereview.com/foru...20-headphone-dongle-review.58749/post-2162334
 
Now available in a small cd-player. They also have a black version. The front is a bit ugly.
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Bleib said:
Now available in a small cd-player. They also have a black version. The front is a bit ugly.
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SMSL PL100 CS43131 CD PlayerPL100-Silver

Buy SMSL PL100 CS43131 CD Player with Free shipping on HiFiGo, you can enjoy a year warranty and the best after-sales service.
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That looks interesting! Not too bad of a price either. Too bad about that small screen, would have liked something that can show CD text and also play discs with Opus files as well. A front without that ugly sticker would be a bonus as well.
Still nice to see that the CS43131 is being used!
 
Tell said:
That looks interesting! Not too bad of a price either. Too bad about that small screen, would have liked something that can show CD text and also play discs with Opus files as well. A front without that ugly sticker would be a bonus as well.
Still nice to see that the CS43131 is being used!
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I hope it's ultra quiet mechanically, too bad they don't write anything about that
 
Is there a good reason to get the Tanchjim Luna instead of the FiiO KA15? The KA15 is cheaper, more powerful, and has PEQ.
Unfortunately, Amir hasn't measured it yet so it's hard to know objectively if it will perform as good as the Luna.
 
Zoide said:
Actually, @amirm measured the Luna at 116 dB SINAD: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...anchjim-luna-portable-hp-amp-dac-review.58272

While @Jeromeof measured the KA15 at 111 dB SINAD (109 dB balanced): https://www.pragmaticaudio.com/reviews/2024/10/fiio-ka15/

So I guess at least in that front the Luna is superior. But the KA15 has PEQ and on paper can deliver more power... Decisions, decisions.
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These are measurements made on different test rigs so not 100% comparable, anyway both units perform great and will produce not audible differences, so the choice must be made only on functionality, price and aesthetic\build.
 
The Walk Play app seems interesting, but it's unclear which USB DACs are truly compatible, and it doesn't sound particularly user-friendly to get started with. On the TTGK website (https://www.szttgk.com/en), I noticed they partner with companies like Panasonic, Anker, and UGreen. They offer ordinary boards with ALC5686 and Hi-Fi boards featuring components like AK4493S, CS43131, ES9280, ES9318, and CS46L41.

What I'm uncertain about is whether TTGK is involved in the production of almost all the dongles currently available (and discontinued). Some of their images bear a striking resemblance to products from TempoTec, iBasso, and others.
 
Saidera said:
The Walk Play app seems interesting, but it's unclear which USB DACs are truly compatible, and it doesn't sound particularly user-friendly to get started with. On the TTGK website (https://www.szttgk.com/en), I noticed they partner with companies like Panasonic, Anker, and UGreen. They offer ordinary boards with ALC5686 and Hi-Fi boards featuring components like AK4493S, CS43131, ES9280, ES9318, and CS46L41.

What I'm uncertain about is whether TTGK is involved in the production of almost all the dongles currently available (and discontinued). Some of their images bear a striking resemblance to products from TempoTec, iBasso, and others.
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Completely off CS43131 topic :rolleyes: .......but I did not know where to post this, and I don't think the 'Walk Play' app deserves a brand new thread.

Besides this TT39510B01, aka JM20-Pro (CS43131-based), the TTGK website lists a few modules with EQ capabilities, which I assume (yes, a wild assumption !!!) could mean compatibility with the TTGK 'Walk Play' app.

Non-exhaustive list, limited to some of the TTGK "USB-C connector-type" modules explicitely mentioning EQ capabilities:
  1. TT39510B01: CB5100+CS43131, 8-band EQ. aka JCally JM20-Pro.
  2. DA8331ZY-TT: CX31993, 8-band EQ. Note that I have yet to see a CX31993 dongle offering EQ...
  3. DAT4339HM-TT: CX31993, 9-band EQ. See the one above. So, is it 8 or 9 bands EQ?
  4. DA4283HM-TT: CX21988, 8-band EQ. That's also the chip used on the Moondrop FreeDSP cable with a 9-band PEQ. Side note: 'Walk Play' does not recognizes Monndrop FreeDSP; assumed to be different FW.
  5. DAT4001HM-L-TT: KT0210, 8-band EQ. Although there are several DSP-enabled using the KT0210 chip (Tanchjim DSP versions of Zero, One, Tanya; Moondrop CDSP, Chu-II DSP, etc.), they are all 5-band EQ, not 8-band. Side note: 'Walk Play' does not recognizes Monndrop Chu-II DSP. Haven't tried the Tanchjim's.
  6. DAH6312HM+P-TT: BES3001SP, 10-band EQ. This BES chip is used on the JCally TC08-Pro and TC20 USB-C upgrade cables for IEMs, which do mention EQ capabilities and differential output. Side note: the new FiiO BTR11 BT/USB dongle uses a BT2700 [EDIT: BES2700] DAC/Amp chip (SE; same "BES" family/OEM?), but no mention of EQ capabilities on the BTR11.
  7. DAT4315HM_P-TT: BES3001SP+MAX97220, 9-band PEQ. Appears to be the "high-power" version of the previous one. So, is the BES3001SP enabling 9 or 10-band EQ?
  8. DAT4294HM-TT: AB229D, 10-band EQ. This chip definitely falls into the "obscure" category... It it is limited to 16bit/48kHz. TTGK also has an interesting DAT4295AUX-TT module, which appears very similar but adds an "auxiliary" USB-C input or bypass (Spdif?).
  9. DAT412BHM-TT: CB1200AU, 8-band EQ. Another "obscure" chip (related to the CB5100 bridge of the JCally JM20-Pro--the "CB" prefix?). Supports 32bit/384kHz.
  10. DAT4161HM-TT: TT1000B, 8-band PEQ. One more "obscure" chip... Never heard of these "TT" chips. Supports an unusual 16bit/96kHz bit depth/rate.
  11. DAH4401HM-TT, TT4280B, 8-band EQ. The final one in the list of "obscure" chips. Also supports this unusual 16bit/96kHz.
I already own the JCally JM20-Pro, #1 on the list, and confirmed it does work with 'Walk Play'. To learn a little more about these "obscure" chips, and for little money, I blindly ordered a few “random” dongles/cables on Amazon & AliExpress, with the same wild assumption that they could be based upon these 'Walk Play' compatible TTGK modules...

Amazon unbranded dongle - What may be #8 module in the above list ($8.99 on Amazon, pack of two):.
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No mention of EQ, but the picture shows a 'AB229D' chip, which is listed as ‘Walk Play’ compatible by TTGK... And by the way, if it is indeed based on one of these TTGK modules, the rendering picture above is pure fantasy, as AB229D is a single, all-in-one, chip and it's certainly larger than what the pictures shows.

AliExpress unbranded dongle - What may be #9 module in the above list. $5.41 at AliExpress:
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This is one is listed as ‘Walk Play’ compatible, and talks about "EQ tone tuning". I found nothing interesting about this ‘CB1200AU’ chip. TTGK spec for the #9 module are : THD+N -85dB @32Ω, SNR 100dB @32Ω, DNR 100dB @32Ω, drive voltage: 580mV.

JCally TC08-Pro & TC20 USB-C upgrade cable for IEMs - May be #6 module in the above list (TC08-Pro), or a version with a 90 deg connector of that same module (TC20). $10.90 & 16.90 at AliExpress:
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JCally description talks about "JCally team modulated own brand EQ acoustic curve line base on BES3001-SP". A reference to 'Walk Play'? The description also hints at a balanced (differential) output.

As with the JM20-Pro, this is a shoot in the dark... I'll try to post a brief summary report of my findings and not derail this CS43131 thread further. :rolleyes:
 
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CedarX said:
Completely off CS43131 topic :rolleyes: .......but I did not know where to post this, and I don't think the 'Walk Play' app deserves a brand new thread.

Besides this TT39510B01, aka JM20-Pro (CS43131-based), the TTGK website lists a few modules with EQ capabilities, which I assume (yes, a wild assumption !!!) could mean compatibility with the TTGK 'Walk Play' app.

Non-exhaustive list, limited to some of the TTGK "USB-C connector-type" modules explicitely mentioning EQ capabilities:
  1. TTTT39510B01: CB5100+CS43131, 8-band EQ. aka JCally JM20-Pro.
  2. DA8331ZY-TT: CX31993, 8-band EQ. Note that I yet to see a CX31993 dongle offering EQ.
  3. DAT4339HM-TT: CX31993, 9-band EQ. See the one above. So, is it 8 or 9 bands EQ?
  4. DA4283HM-TT: CX21988, 8-band EQ. That's also the chip used on the Moondrop FreeDSP cable with a 9-band PEQ. Side note: 'Walk Play' does not recognizes Monndrop FreeDSP; assumed to be different FW.
  5. DAT4001HM-L-TT: KT0210, 8-band EQ. Although there are several DSP-enabled using the KT0210 chip (Tanchjim DSP versions of Zero, One, Tanya; Moondrop CDSP, Chu-II DSP, etc.), they are all 5-band EQ, not 8-band. Side note: 'Walk Play' does not recognizes Monndrop Chu-II DSP. Haven't tried the Tanchjim's.
  6. DAH6312HM+P-TT: BES3001SP, 10-band EQ. This BES chip is used on the JCally TC08-Pro and TC20 USB-C upgrade cables for IEMs, which does mention EQ capabilities and differential output. Side note: the new FiiO BTR11 BT/USB dongle uses a BT2700 DAC/Amp chip (SE; same family/OEM?), but no mention of EQ capabilities on the BTR11.
  7. DAT4315HM_P-TT: BES3001SP+MAX97220, 9-band PEQ. Appears to be the "high-power" version of the previous one. So, is the BES3001SP enabling 9 or 10-band EQ?
  8. DAT4294HM-TT: AB229D, 10-band EQ. This chip definitely falls into the "obscure" category... It it is limited to 16bit/48kHz. TTGK also has an interesting DAT4295AUX-TT module, which appears very similar but adds an "auxiliary" USB-C input or bypass (Spdif?).
  9. DAT412BHM-TT: CB1200AU, 8-band EQ. Another "obscure" chip (related to the CB5100 bridge of the JCally JM20-Pro--the "CB" prefix?). Supports 32bit/384kHz.
  10. DAT4161HM-TT: TT1000B, 8-band PEQ. One more "obscure" chip... Never heard of these "TT" chips. Supports an unusual 16bit/96kHz bit depth/rate.
  11. DAH4401HM-TT, TT4280B, 8-band EQ. The final one in the list of "obscure" chips. Also supports this unusual 16bit/96kHz.
I already own the JCally JM20-Pro, #1 on the list, and confirmed it does work with 'Walk Play'. To learn a little more about these "obscure" chips, and for little money, I blindly ordered a few “random” dongles/cables on Amazon & AliExpress, with the same wild assumption that they could be based upon these 'Walk Play' compatible TTGK modules...

Amazon unbranded dongle - What may be #8 module in the above list ($8.99 on Amazon, pack of two):.
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No mention of EQ, but the picture shows a 'AB229D' chip, which is listed as ‘Walk Play’ compatible by TTGK... And by the way, if it is indeed based on one of these TTGK modules, the rendering picture above is pure fantasy, as AB229D is a single, all-in-one, chip and it's certainly larger than what the pictures shows.

AliExpress unbranded dongle - What may be #9 module in the above list. $5.41 at AliExpress:
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This is one is listed as ‘Walk Play’ compatible, and talks about "EQ tone tuning". I found nothing interesting about this ‘CB1200AU’ chip. TTGK spec for the #9 module are : THD+N -85dB @32Ω, SNR 100dB @32Ω, DNR 100dB @32Ω, drive voltage: 580mV.

JCally TC08-Pro & TC20 USB-C upgrade cable for IEMs - May be #6 module in the above list (TC08-Pro), or a version with a 90 deg connector of that same module (TC20). $10.90 & 16.90 at AliExpress:
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JCally description talks about "JCally team modulated own brand EQ acoustic curve line base on BES3001-SP". A reference to 'Walk Play'? The description also hints at a balanced (differential) output.

As with the JM20-Pro, this is a shoot in the dark... I'll try to post a brief summary report of my findings and not derail this CS43131 thread further. :rolleyes:
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Thanks for the great effort of going in depth with all those obscure chips and designs! What a rabbit hole you falled in! o_O :cool:
 
mc.god said:
In the meantime I just discovered that they are now selling a new model JM20 Max following the latest trend of coupling the CS43131 with SGM8262
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For $30, you get more power as compared to the ‘standard’ JM20.

For $85, you can get the HiBy R1, and a lot more……CPU power…..as compared to the ‘standard’ JM20.

Was a not so clever way to mention the R1: a new, non-Android, CS43131-based DAP from HiBy. :cool:
 
Just received my SMSL PL100. Very nice size, can confirm that it's mechanically quiet.
5v / 2A in, the only thing missing is a charger. The one thing I would like to have fixed with a firmware update is that the display would turn completely off when the unit is off. Display is some sort of LCD
 
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