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A talk for the local skeptics community
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An important point often missed by both his supporters and detractors.
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For some educational content I think speaker cables allow you to demonstrate a couple of important general ideas. One is the marketing trick of saying something technically correct but not significant in practice. Silver is a better conductor than copper. True! Now let's calculate how much difference it makes. Or how about the skin effect? It's real. I looked it up on Wikipedia. But at audio frequencies it's insignificant. The belief in the technical story can be sufficient to justify or legitimate a desire to buy some fancy thing.
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Oh, my ghu!
I think one of the elements of the talk will be "just look how much popped up in 48 hours to stare in horror at".
This group is skeptics, not audio people, so explaining how to improve your system is probably not in their wheelhouse, I'm pretty sure that they are mostly happy with their cell phones. I keep the instruction videos for the AES group.
I think one of the elements of the talk will be "just look how much popped up in 48 hours to stare in horror at".
This group is skeptics, not audio people, so explaining how to improve your system is probably not in their wheelhouse, I'm pretty sure that they are mostly happy with their cell phones. I keep the instruction videos for the AES group.
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I have to say that I am convinced Peter S. Belt, no matter how self-deluded, was sincere. One can not say the same for magic wires, fuses, rocks, etc.
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It's about how human perception can be tricked via expectation, advertisement, malicious presentation, etc. But it's supposed to be entertaining, too, and I suspect the green ink and some of the "color fuses" are going to be toasted and roasted.
Teo Audio’s stuff. Including the cables made from the stuff they put in thermometers
To add to the fun, they appear in Audiogon and are the *most* insufferable <ahem>s.
To add to the fun, they appear in Audiogon and are the *most* insufferable <ahem>s.
And the Tice clocks, don’t forget those. They ‘treated’ Micronta (Radio Shack) clocks and then you plug them in somewhere in the house and they “organize” your electrical current.
Well, at least it’s not mercury…
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I’ve tangled with Teo a number of times on Canuck Mart. Truly the definition of deluded woo-woo.
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This thread reminds me:
A while back, I auditioned a set of loudspeakers at a local, small high end audio store, run by one of your classic idiosyncratic audiophile proprietors.
When I suggested that I would just bring some of my test music on a thumb drive, or asked if he had streaming, he said no thumb drives or streaming allowed. it was his conviction that music from my thumb drive or streaming, even lossless, could not be high enough quality. And that if I was to bring any of my own music, it must be in the form of CDs.
(this made me laugh inwardly. I had to resist telling him that my own work was computer audio based, routinely spit out through God knows what type of anti-golden-ear paths to FTP sites, and downloaded to be played in million dollar mixing Studios… without any sonic loss),
So I complied. And I guess I wasn’t too surprised when I was sat in front of the speakers to watch him “ demagnetize” every CD I wanted to listen to.
(the speakers sucked by the way).
A while back, I auditioned a set of loudspeakers at a local, small high end audio store, run by one of your classic idiosyncratic audiophile proprietors.
When I suggested that I would just bring some of my test music on a thumb drive, or asked if he had streaming, he said no thumb drives or streaming allowed. it was his conviction that music from my thumb drive or streaming, even lossless, could not be high enough quality. And that if I was to bring any of my own music, it must be in the form of CDs.
(this made me laugh inwardly. I had to resist telling him that my own work was computer audio based, routinely spit out through God knows what type of anti-golden-ear paths to FTP sites, and downloaded to be played in million dollar mixing Studios… without any sonic loss),
So I complied. And I guess I wasn’t too surprised when I was sat in front of the speakers to watch him “ demagnetize” every CD I wanted to listen to.
(the speakers sucked by the way).
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Weird, as the thumb drive could have a file of greater resolution than Redbook. Same with streaming (at least circa 2024).
I can confirm that in 2025, that is still the case
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It’s so weird how these audiophiles, and their theories of how sound quality works, seem to be utterly ignorant, or just don’t take account of how the content is actually made. Usually the content which they find to sound glorious on their carefully curated systems, is made in ways that violate almost all their precious ideas about how sound quality is maintained.
That’s all you need right there
My asthma laughing cough was triggered by your example.... LoL...
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