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A new Kef speaker? The Kef LS Luxe

Really? Here in the states the 8341a is ~$3700.
€5k on the dot, including VAT:
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Can't wait for the data from Erin! Will the KEF LS Luxe be able to challenge a AsciLab A6B / S6B?

The interesting part for me is that a AsciLab A6B / S6B can be used with any amplifier you want, but if the KEF LS Luxe can prove that running their current amplification on both tweeter and woofer (plus VECO on the woofer) is the next frontier, then I am all in on that.
 
Can't wait for the data from Erin! Will the KEF LS Luxe be able to challenge a AsciLab A6B / S6B?

The interesting part for me is that a AsciLab A6B / S6B can be used with any amplifier you want, but if the KEF LS Luxe can prove that running their current amplification on both tweeter and woofer (plus VECO on the woofer) is the next frontier, then I am all in on
i doubt the Luxe has the same bass extension/distortion. The Luxe port is tuned at ~50hz, I believe the passive radiators on the S6B are tuned lower.

Would only make sense, the S6B has a 6.5 inch purifi driver, which have incredible low distortion and very high xmas. The driver also doesn’t have a tweeter in the middle. Plus the S6B is a bigger speaker.
 
As for multi-channel capabilities, it is indeed a shame that the LS Luxe isn't WiSA-compatible, even though I get the impression that this standard is struggling to gain traction—or even to develop at all.
WiSa is still a quite limited system, hence why using RJ45 could be an option to add as many channels as desired. Connect every speaker to a switch, connect the switch to the main unit and off you go.

POE, as cool as it sounds, can only provide 90 W, so a bit too low for the consumption of an LS speaker.

Personally, If I had insane amounts of money, I´d be already contacting Mr. Sigberg, get an AV20 and hook up some of his creations and bypass the passives, but alas...
 
The coax in the Muon is obviously crossed over much higher.
Well the coax in the Luxe isn't crossed over to anything at all.

I have to again question why KEF won't just do an active version of the Concerto so there's a dedicated bass driver to cross over to, instead of doing all this fancy stuff to try to make a single small coax cover the entire frequency range.
 
Well the coax in the Luxe isn't crossed over to anything at all.

Probably to a high pass in the bottom, but yes, that was the point. :)
 
Well the genelec 8331 costs the same is a 3 way so probably has lower multitone distortion. It has a similar port tuning frequency, bass distortion is surprisingly low for its size, if better or worse bass distortion wise remains to be seen when Erin’s review is out. The Kef has a larger FR dip at one point (6Khz, might go away with toe in/out), but otherwise both are really flat. dispersion wise they look to be on roughly the same level if KEFs white paper measurement is to be believed. So i would say we need Erin’s measurements to fully determine which one is better. There is a distortion measurement in KEFs Luxe white paper, so you could compare it to Erin’s distortion measurement of the 8331. however it’s an other format and not independent of course.

One could argue that the Luxe is a even truer point source (all sound coming from essentially one driver cone), but not sure if that matters.

The genelec will always win because it's mid doesn't have to move. As good as the KEF distortion could be, it's still going to be moving and you don't really want that. If we go by KEF's data is looks like the woofer distortion is down about 10db from the LS50w2. We have spins of LS50w2 so at 86db, instead of distortion being -30db (in the bass), it'll be around -40db. That's my guess at least. An impressive improvement in a vaccum, but is still short of a lot of other speakers that are much cheaper.

I thought I'd like point source so I bought some KEF, on paper is sounds like an obvious improvement to regular ole multiways. Turns out I actually don't care for point source at all. Figured it would be cool but I guess it's not for everyone.
 
The genelec will always win because it's mid doesn't have to move. As good as the KEF distortion could be, it's still going to be moving and you don't really want that. If we go by KEF's data is looks like the woofer distortion is down about 10db from the LS50w2. We have spins of LS50w2 so at 86db, instead of distortion being -30db (in the bass), it'll be around -40db. That's my guess at least. An impressive improvement in a vaccum, but is still short of a lot of other speakers that are much cheaper.

I thought I'd like point source so I bought some KEF, on paper is sounds like an obvious improvement to regular ole multiways. Turns out I actually don't care for point source at all. Figured it would be cool but I guess it's not for everyone.
I would love to buy Genelec instead, but they don't have wireless speakers
 
So basicaly you're saying speakers from big brands like KEF can't make realiable streaming hw and i have to buy a separate streamer?
I mean, yeah I suppose. Experience with making excellent speakers does not necessarily translate into making excellent electronics and software.
 
Dang...I guess I never realized how expensive the Genelec 3-way SAM' everyone keeps mentioning are. Even the smallest one (even before adding the external streamer) is almost $1800 more expensive in the states.
 
Dang...I guess I never realized how expensive the Genelec 3-way SAM' everyone keeps mentioning are. Even the smallest one (even before adding the external streamer) is almost $1800 more expensive in the states.

Shipping + tariff is very expensive these days.
 
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