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a moving-coil cartridge is an absolute minimum requirement: even the best moving magnet will not be capable of the measuring the extra information in

Last I knew: (typically) there's more moving mass in an MC cartridge - to wit, the coils. Moving coil cartridges are more or less low compliance devices as a result.
Do you have some data or articles on that? Compliance (the inverse of stiffness) shouldn't be mixed up with mass, from what I know typically MCs are engineered to be less compliant for their typical $$$$ buyer which uses rather heavy tone arms.
 
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So much nonsense. WTF is "The Quietus"? Sounds fucking ridiculous without looking.....
The Quietus is a British online music and pop culture magazine founded by John Doran and Luke Turner. The site is an editorially independent publication led by Doran with a group of freelance journalists and critics.

So says Wikipedia.

Just poking around now I found this article about Susan Alcorn, pedal steel guitar player and composer influenced by Messiaen. It's good and I'm glad I learned about this musician.

 
I was reading an article on The Quietus about a reissue of Dark Magus and trying to skip over the audiophile and definitive vinyl stuff when I got to this and nearly gave up.

Dark Magus is a demanding starting point in what could (should?) end up being a string of potentially revelatory re-releases – and, as befits a release presumably intended to put down a marker, the results are certainly impressive: though to what degree will depend on the quality of the system being used to play the record. Personal experience suggests a moving-coil cartridge is an absolute minimum requirement: even the best moving magnet will not be capable of the measuring the extra information in the groove with sufficient accuracy to reveal the additional detail and nuance. But if your system has sufficient capability, the rewards can be rich indeed.​

If a moving-coil cartridge is an absolute minimum requirement, what would exceed the requirement? Rhetorical question. I don't care. You can read the rest of it here


I have enjoyed reading in The Quietus in the past. For example this was good.
If you want to spend money, get a non-contact optical turntable, like ELP. They are used by the Library of Congress, universities, and restoration studios.

The record lathe is linear. It is completely ridiculous to have a radial tone arm because of the tracking distortion, which is in whole numbers of %. That was an Audio Engineering Society paper. The only reason for a radial arm is looks, and a lower cost than a linear arm for a similar implementation.

As for classic recording remastering, a CD or lossless digital master will exceed a vinyl master. There are new exotic new playback electronics, then new digital processing that can help remastering with the master tapes, multitrack, or stereo.

Stereo cutter heads are really not that great. If you want to go down the rabbit hole, the ASR for record cutting is the Secret Society of Lathe Trolls. They roll off in the high frequencies.

If you really want to go crazy, set up a digital audio workstation in your playback chain, then buy some exotic compressor and EQ plugins. The Fairchild is a classic - https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...in-emulation-of-vacuum-tube-compressor.57418/, and many people like Manley. There are many discussion groups dedicated to mastering, and you can DIY that in your playback system at home for a reasonable cost. Sometimes you will go back and forth between L-R and M-S processing. You could build the equivalent hardware rack for about $50K if you like knobs.

The classic book on mastering is Mastering Audio: The Art and the Science by Katz. He is still alive and active on some forums.
 
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If you want to spend money, get a non-contact optical turntable, like ELP. They are used by the Library of Congress, universities, and restoration studios. It is completely ridiculous to have a radial tone arm because of the tracking distortion, which is in whole numbers of %. That was an Audio Engineering Society paper. The only reason for a radial arm is looks.
Last I knew, the laser pickup was very sensitive to dust/particulates on the disk surface.
I thought ELP was long gone, but it appears it/they may still exist(?!).

 
Last I knew, the laser pickup was very sensitive to dust/particulates on the disk surface.
I thought ELP was long gone, but it appears it/they may still exist(?!).


I went looking for a review of the ELP turntable and found one here. It is a rare negative, and very believable review from the subjectivist press. In short, records that were dead silent on his normal turntable had an unbearable amount of noise.
 
Can you explain why MM's are not inferior to MC's when it comes to tracking accuracy?
I couldn't find it last time I looked, but somewhere on the forum there is a link (or maybe a direct copy) of a blind listening test comparing a few cartridges including at least one MC. The "looser" was one of the MM cartridges but the MC was NOT a clear "winner". The best of both were essentially tied. (It was a very old listening test form the vinyl days.)

There is also Cartridge Measurement Thread. The thread is pretty long and I haven't read it but I assume there are some clues there. I don't care... I haven't "played records" in decades. It's an outdated-inferior format and IMO, it's foolish to try and perfect it. :P

Most people who are into vinyl think that the lower mass of MC improves tracking because there is less inertia.
Most "audiophiles" are nuts! ;) ...Most "don't believe in" measurements or blind listening tests.
 
This, of course, is utter crap.
Just a bit of exaggeration which you would expect :-) 'tis probably true to say that moving coils have generally been better quality than moving magnets but with a wide overlap.
 
I had a lot of cartridges in the past, MC, MI and MM and settled for the fairly cheap AT-VM95eN. That is good enough. MC cartridges break down all the time and can't have a replacement needle and don't sound better i think. I still have an old and mint Stanton 500 (NLA but mine is NOS) on one of my turntables with very little hours on it that i will use untill it breaks down, but after that it's also an AT i think. Those sound like it should sound, and are cheap and easy availeble. Shure cells were also great, but also NLA. I also had Grado and Denon cartridges in the past, but those, altough they are good, are overpriced in my opinion.

MC cartridge are expensive, fragile and wear out fast without the option to change the needle. So after 1000h of listening (for me less than a year) they are waste... MM can last decades with only the neelde that needs to be replaced from time to time and are a lot cheaper for the same sound quality when calibrated right (at least on the technics turntables that i use).
 
I went looking for a review of the ELP turntable and found one here. It is a rare negative, and very believable review from the subjectivist press. In short, records that were dead silent on his normal turntable had an unbearable amount of noise.
Thanks. That is a good piece of information arguing for cleaning vinyl and click pop removal systems.
 
Moving coil often reaches much higher price points in the "high end audio" world so this means it must be better? Just a guess.
...and typical low output MC cartridges require an additional gain stage or step up transformer which also adds to the cost and to the inconvenience. Two more reasons why they must be better and receive more audiophile street cred.
 
...and typical low output MC cartridges require an additional gain stage or step up transformer which also adds to the cost and to the inconvenience. Two more reasons why they must be better and receive more audiophile street cred.
Absolutely! Not judging, but a masochistic tendency is a prerequisite for any affinity to vinyl. :)
 
'tis probably true to say that moving coils have generally been better quality than moving magnets but with a wide overlap.
I would like to see evidence that this is the case. More expensive in general, that I can agree with. Quality... a different matter, especially given the vague nature of the term "quality" in this context.
 
The lowest moving mass cartridge ever made commercially was... a moving magnet. So the premise of "lower mass" is not accurate.
For a short period of time in the late 70's to the early 80s a couple of Japanese companies - Denon and Highphonics (sp?) - produced high trackability low effective tip mass MCs that tracked around 1 g downforce. The lowest effective tip mass cartridge I know of was the Denon DL 1000a MC. I had one and it was a terrific tracker. Which MM were you reffering to in your post?
 
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