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A Home Network Experiment: Setup, Equipment Used, and Observations

I reported a subjective listening observation, acknowledged potential bias, and discussed whether known physical mechanisms could in principle explain such observations — which is a different discussion entirely.


Conflating “I heard something under specific conditions” with “this is audibly different in all cases” is a category error.
You are using an ai to defend yourself and it is not doing a good job. I did n't claim anything about "audible in all cases" lol

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Where it becomes incomplete is with time-domain and phase-related phenomena (e.g. jitter-induced modulation, reference noise coupling), which may not show up in a simple null or averaged FFT, yet can affect low-level detail through masking.
Citation needed! When has jitter been an issue in the last two or so decades in digital audio?

It’s the standard audiophile nonsense all over again.

Ask your AI to be critical, check sources, validate claims…
 
Citation needed! When has jitter been an issue in the last two or so decades in digital audio?

It’s the standard audiophile nonsense all over again.

Ask your AI to be critical, check sources, validate claims…
my ai is critical ,check sources 2 time ,validatind claims and more.
 
Yeah, it is pretty obvious which of your responses are AI, and which are not. It's the replies which are full of typos which are not AI.

You are very rapidly proving that you are not here in good faith. Time to say goodbye. I think Amir is watching this thread, let's see what he decides.
 
try to ask every ai you decide this question and you will get the same facts
"According to established EMC and signal-integrity theory (IEEE 802.3 Ethernet specifications, transformer isolation physics, and conducted/common-mode noise coupling), is it physically possible for electrical noise to couple across an Ethernet interface into downstream circuitry (e.g. via transformer capacitance, shared ground or PSU paths) without altering the digital data itself (bit-perfect transmission)?"'
 
try to ask every ai you decide this question and you will get the same facts
"According to established EMC and signal-integrity theory (IEEE 802.3 Ethernet specifications, transformer isolation physics, and conducted/common-mode noise coupling), is it physically possible for electrical noise to couple across an Ethernet interface into downstream circuitry (e.g. via transformer capacitance, shared ground or PSU paths) without altering the digital data itself (bit-perfect transmission)?"'
That doesn’t answer the audibility claim, nor the exact manifestation you’re claiming. It a non-sequiter.
 
"According to established EMC and signal-integrity theory (IEEE 802.3 Ethernet specifications, transformer isolation physics, and conducted/common-mode noise coupling), is it physically possible for electrical noise to couple across an Ethernet interface into downstream circuitry (e.g. via transformer capacitance, shared ground or PSU paths) without altering the digital data itself (bit-perfect transmission)?"'
It is possible for that to happen. You don't need AI for that. The noise however, has to jump a massive valley to get into audio stream. To wit, USB interface has far more noise riding on it than any effect there. Yet, USB interface DACs produce distortion and noise well below threshold of hearing. It is the job of a good DAC/streamer to be immune to such. If your DAC has this problem, then get a new DAC.
 
why not? some of the unswer from the forum are that is not possible
No! The answer is that it’s not audible unless your equipment is incorrectly designed. Then you buy another $€£ 99 DAC not spend thousands of money on a switch.
 
It is possible for that to happen. You don't need AI for that. The noise however, has to jump a massive valley to get into audio stream. To wit, USB interface has far more noise riding on it than any effect there. Yet, USB interface DACs produce distortion and noise well below threshold of hearing. It is the job of a good DAC/streamer to be immune to such. If your DAC has this problem, then get a new DAC.
it happens with 2 dacs, vincent 237mk and nod bluesound icon
 
Where it becomes incomplete is with time-domain and phase-related phenomena (e.g. jitter-induced modulation, reference noise coupling), which may not show up in a simple null or averaged FFT, yet can affect low-level detail through masking.
This is an actor trying to pretend to be a doctor. Do you even know what those terms mean? You are just parroting nonsense that non-technical audiophiles and marketing departments spread.
 
it happens with 2 dacs, vincent 237mk and nod bluesound icon
OK, show the measurements. Noise is trivially measured. So is jitter.
 
You are just parroting nonsense that non-technical audiophiles and marketing departments spread.
That’s exactly why there is a policy on use of AI. It’s trained on that very same nonsense. If you don’t instruct it carefully it will just regurgitate the same slop, as is evident. And if you do, still caution is needed and manual verification is mandatory.
 
The point was never that this must happen but in my case it happen
 
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