$8000 versus $14 speaker cable - with measurements

[Deleted member 48726]

You cannot reason someone out of a belief that they were not reasoned into.

That's not true. Patience is needed and different angles on the topic.

 

[vert]

A google search landed me on one such forums the other day... one of the "hifi is no fun if it doesn't cost a second mortgage" places. And there was a thread about... audiophile SATA cables !!! I should have read that thread.

 

[Balle Clorin]

I am sooo tired of youtubers that never to the point and use 1000 words on what
can be said on 3 , after 5 minutes I gave up ..

 

[Pearljam5000]

I like this cable

 

[MattHooper]

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I like this cable

Kind of cool looking.

But the price makes me angry.

 

[Mart68]

Kind of cool looking.

But the price makes me angry.

but it's good value - it competes with cables in the £100K to £150K price bracket.

 

[voodooless]

"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." Not from Einstein

But we’re not expecting different results, are we? Maybe in the context of people accepting them? I think this forum has proven that repeating the mantra works: Ever more people become sceptical. It works, just slowly. In any case, the joke is on the believers: they keep buying different cables, expecting them to sound differently..

 

[TonyJZX]

what's in the plastic case in the middle?

shakti stones?

 

[G|force]

#OccupyNordost
#OccupyTransparent

 

[voodooless]

what's in the plastic case in the middle?

shakti stones?

No, it’s a box with a tiny radioactive cat in it. Don’t open it though, it will let the Quantum out

 

[Ken Tajalli]

Well...I just replaced a $4,500 pair of interconnects in my system with a pair of $40 interconnects from Amazon. (The expensive interconnects were loaned to me since I needed an pair when I got another preamp - no I wouldn't buy expensive cables).

Wanna guess if I heard any difference?

I could!
A sigh of relief.

 

[CapMan]

Well...I just replaced a $4,500 pair of interconnects in my system with a pair of $40 interconnects from Amazon. (The expensive interconnects were loaned to me since I needed an pair when I got another preamp - no I wouldn't buy expensive cables).

Wanna guess if I heard any difference?

Come back and post when your system is resolving enough.

 

[Platypus20]

$14 for a speaker cable, what am I a Rockefeller, Vanderblit or Gates, c’mon what this world needs is a good $8 speaker cable !!!

 

[phoenixdogfan]

And the people who made that cable are still at large!

 

[CleanSound]

"Your system is not resolving enough to hear the difference."
"You just don't have the hearing capabilities like I do."
"You are jealous that you can't afford these expensive cables."

 

[theREALdotnet]

I wonder when a high-end boutique market for EV charge cables is going to emerge. The clientele seems predestined and will likely be receptive

 

[JSmith]

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[DMill]

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I like this cable

If only it came in red. Oh well.

 

[voodooless]

"You are jealous that you can't afford these expensive cables."

Well, at least that one is true But if I cloud, I would still not spend the money on them.

Regardless, as far as arguments go, the only true one is also the weakest. The size of a bank account has no capacity to change the nature of reality in any meaningful way

 

[CleanSound]

Well, at least that one is true But if I cloud, I would still not spend the money on them.

Regardless, as far as arguments go, the only true one is also the weakest. The size of a bank account has no capacity to change the nature of reality in any meaningful way

Those 3 arguments are the most used amongst the loudest pseudoscientists. Whenever you hear anyone of those arguments, it's a tell tale sign that there is no point of having the discussion, it's time to just move on.