$8000 versus $14 speaker cable - with measurements

[amadeogt]

What a great video:

Transparent gets properly destroyed by the data. And he even did a blind test.

 

[Svet Angelov]

Nice try, but everyone knows that the real changes to the sound can't be measured.. :Р

 

[CapMan]

Must be the switch box and short cable that screwed up the benefits of the Transparent cable

 

[fpitas]

Their system wasn't resolving enough. Duh!

 

[Ken Tajalli]

Not again!
how many times do we have to prove the obvious.

 

[JustJones]

They're all deaf, my wife heard the difference from the kitchen.

 

[fpitas]

Not again!
how many times do we have to prove the obvious.

Just wait until the trolls show up, and you'll have your answer

 

[Dunring]

Don't post this on the Audiogon message boards or you'll have a group of wealthy townspeople outside your house with torches, pitchforks, and an exorcist to dispel you. The place where if you don't pay $3000 for a power cable your not hifi enough.

 

[Justdafactsmaam]

Don't post this on the Audiogon message boards or you'll have a group of wealthy townspeople outside your house with torches, pitchforks, and an exorcist to dispel you. The place where if you don't pay $3000 for a power cable your not hifi enough.

They are the angriest bunch

 

[Justdafactsmaam]

You’d think for $8K they could have at least built a low pass filter in that box and make the cable sound a little different. Just for moments like this.

 

[sweetchaos]

 

[kemmler3D]

Not again!
how many times do we have to prove the obvious.

Just once, naturally. The problem is that conclusive proof doesn't seem to be convincing.

So the question is... what would be convincing?

 

[Blumlein 88]

Just once, naturally. The problem is that conclusive proof doesn't seem to be convincing.

So the question is... what would be convincing?

"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." Not from Einstein.

So doing a test more than once is good. Doing it 30 or 50 times if you get consistent results is enough. After that you should realize it is not convincing anyone not convinced. Plus in this case enough is known you really have no need to do the test. The results are known. If anyone makes something that really makes a difference they need to show those unexpected outlier results and why.

 

[Anton D]

Just once, naturally. The problem is that conclusive proof doesn't seem to be convincing.

So the question is... what would be convincing?

You cannot reason someone out of a belief that they were not reasoned into.

 

[Blumlein 88]

You cannot reason someone out of a belief that they were not reasoned into.

It is hard, but it can be done. Very easy to believe irrational things. A fair number of people can step back and see that has happened to them. Making it easier for them by showing such irrationality can work at least now and again.

 

[Justdafactsmaam]

Just once, naturally. The problem is that conclusive proof doesn't seem to be convincing.

So the question is... what would be convincing?

For me it was an excellent explanation from JJ as to why we perceive differences where none exist and why those perceptions are so convincing and seemingly consistent.

What doesn’t work are pissing contests and calling people delusional and audiophools. If the conversation starts by telling believers there is something wrong with them defense mechanisms are triggered and the conversation dies

 

[Justdafactsmaam]

You cannot reason someone out of a belief that they were not reasoned into.

Reason is nothing without the correct information to apply it to.

Most believers are exposed to auditions that render bad results due to bad protocols but leave a very convincing impression.

There is nothing intuitive about the pitfalls of casual audio auditions. Those flawed impressions are very convincing. That’s normal. And that has to be addressed

 

[Chrispy]

That earned a subscribe for his channel....

 

[MattHooper]

Well...I just replaced a $4,500 pair of interconnects in my system with a pair of $40 interconnects from Amazon. (The expensive interconnects were loaned to me since I needed an pair when I got another preamp - no I wouldn't buy expensive cables).

Wanna guess if I heard any difference?

 

[Deleted member 48726]

Nice try, but everyone knows that the real changes to the sound can't be measured.. :Р

"I'm not listening to MEASUREMENTS I'm listening to MUSIC!!1 "