You don't know what is then. The goal for a target is to get close. It will never be perfect. It can't be when the world of audio has no production standards. The current targets are good enough for us to rally around. The notion that every reviewer cooks up their own, with zero research, is absurd.
After spending all that extra $$$$, you've paid for the privilege of not admitting anything.
agree that the targets varying by a lot is more or less preference of certain genres that they like which are heavy on bass or certain treble frequencies at 5-7k.
sure. for some reason it doesn't bother me that much though.
For the record, I own the Truth Zero:2s, both blue and red. I only demoed the u12ts. They do indeed sound better. I’d put them over my Blessing 2s for tuning though, outside of edge cases.
Concerned with / arguing over very minor differences
Glad it wasn't about brutally killing rabbits.
Well, people are funny in that sometimes they associate words and phrases with certain perspectives in life. If by using a word is a way of signalling association with a certain crowd, then maybe it might not be the most productive thing to do if the objective is to have a fact based, constructive conversations at times.
I own a12t (custom variant of u12t), original Zeros and red Zeros. My humble opinion: blue Zeros sound great (albeit a bit shouty in upper mids for my ears, blame my tinnitus), red Zeros are perfect for me and a12t are embarrassingly bad in comparison. Upper midrange and treble are nowhere to be found and there is way too much bass (even with the m15 apex module). They sound muffled, heavy and wrong. All the detail is squashed, vocals sound unnatural, guitars don't have bite…The only redeeming qualities of a12t are 1) the looks and 2) the comfort and noise cancellation, since they're molded to my ear canals. But still, I never use them because I can't stand them without EQ and it's a big pain in the butt to fiddle with the Qudelix 5K on the go in comparison to the tiny USB-C dongle I use with red Zeros.
I’ll elaborate on this further; I don’t really like the bass on the Truth Zeros. I think they’re too light. I prefer lighter highs, but I didn’t demo the u12ts long enough to know if I could live with that half of it, but I’m sure I prefer both it and the Zeros to the Blessing 2. I demoed more expensive 64 IEMs that I liked less, along with other kilobbuck IEMs that weren’t as impressive to me.
They question is not if whether or what but why (could they) sound better? Different build? Different transducer?? Different active filters?
Are you serious? Read measurements and reviews on here with comprehension.
If it was a person i would be more careful but other misspells that don't intentionally point to satire or wordplay don't bother me as much as the point of a conversation should be larger than a typo.
If you at are receiving end, it is hard to judge if it is a typo or an intentional statement. I see no value in engaging in conversation with those who take pride in calling it harmon.
Yes, I am familiar with the shortcomings of the IE research. I also don't like how it sounds. I would not trust reviewers with their targets either though. Supposedly, Harman is working on a new IE target based on 5128, and hopefully they would be kind enough to share it with the rest of the world.
Yes, I'm completely serious, I would like to read the results of reliable scientific research, not someone's subjective beliefs.
Show me the science behind this claim. Otherwise it's just something you believe in.
To be clear, it's not my intention to defend the audio industry and their ridiculous prices. I don't think that more expensive IEMs are always better or anything like that.
My claim (based on my subjective experience, experiments with EQ, and blind testing attempts) is that multi-driver IEMs probably have some properties that single-DD IEMs don't. These properties may be subjectively perceived by some people as better "separation", "layering", more "holographic" sound, etc.
And are probably not visible in frequency response graphs. I don't even see the point in talking about THD, THD is inaudible in 99% of cases, unless someone listens to single sine waves instead of music
Of course, I may be wrong, maybe the type of driver doesn't matter, but I would like to read some scientific studies on this subject, not someone's subjective opinions.
It's good to hear that you want Harman research to be public and hopefully it will be. Also good that they are going to do some randomized controlled studies based on the new 5128 rig. Some typo should not be a trigger word especially when it doesn't mean anything. Maybe something about my comment that says relying too heavily on the ie target that seems to be accepted as siblant triggered you more. I obviously didn't intend to confuse a company name to a generic word like harmony or agree to some common opinion. If that's all it takes then it's not a positive way to lead the chat
I put on these earphones and turned on Earful and tried to see if I can figure out what is going on by going through the audible range and see if something stands out.
Just last week I have been trolled by a gentleman who proudly calls the research hormon. Sometimes it is a typo, sometimes it is a moron - its hard to tell at times
