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37.5% duty charged on Ascilab speakers shipped to US [Resolved]

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I'll just say that the only speaker I know built in the US is Zu Audio and I'll be goddamned if I ever buy any of their shit I'll throw all my gear out first everything in our hobby is imported one way or the other THAT'S IT I'M OUT
I don't think there are any published measurements for them. Even if there are and they are half way decent, those got to be one of the top ten ugliest speakers that I've seen. No offense to any Zu owners, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
 
Good point!

Perhaps the speakers are manufactured in China, and this is a pass-through tariff?
As far as we all know they are made in S Korea. it says so under the binding posts.
Maybe they are shipped through China? That would be a pity.
 
Also, I thought tariffs were based on the manufacturer's cost, not the retail price (including shipping in this case).
That's only if you are an importer/distributor and then, it would be based on the cost you have negotiated with the vendor. In the case of direct sale to consumer, the company would not want to disclose their cost and would list the retail price.

I recently bought a watch from a small maker in Europe for $2500, and was charged a 10% duty by DSL on a stated manufacturer's cost of $2000. (And I had to pay before delivery: as @amirm says, this is DHL policy.)
I think in that case they cheated the system a bit, and with the produce being a niche, it got through. Otherwise I think there is an obligation for the cost to match what the vendor has billed you.
 
"There are no tariffs if you build inside the US"
You have this statement in quotes, so I am not sure what you are trying to say or mean.

And because this forum is a fact based forum, I feel the need to correct this statement.

If a finished product is made in the US, it does not mean there will be no tariffs included in the cost. So long as there are parts that are imported from a country that are subject to US tariffs, the manufacturer of that finished product will likely have to pay some level of trickle down tariffs. Then that finish product manufacturer can decide if they will pass on that tariff cost to their customers. At the current situation, nearly all products coming into the US are subject to tariffs.

The only way a product will have no form of tariffs is if all the parts used are also made in the US along with the raw materials used in those parts. Given how complex modern day supply chain are, the chances of that scenario is close to nill.

I encourage you to do your research before disseminating misinformation.
 
"There are no tariffs if you build inside the US"
Without wading into politics too much, that's a load of nonsense.

The economy is global. There are some things that you literally cannot get made here. SB Acoustics (the manufacturer of the drivers) doesn't have a factory here - in fact, I can't think of any driver manufacturers here other than Eminence.

So, even if this were in the US, we'd still have a price increase because the components have a tariff.
 
in fact, I can't think of any driver manufacturers here other than Eminence.
I am 99% confident that they used imported rare earth from China. Which is also subject to tariffs.

This member who made this comment clearly appears to not have much worldly knowledge, otherwise such disinformation would not have been made.
 
Without wading into politics too much, that's a load of nonsense.

The economy is global. There are some things that you literally cannot get made here. SB Acoustics (the manufacturer of the drivers) doesn't have a factory here - in fact, I can't think of any driver manufacturers here other than Eminence.

So, even if this were in the US, we'd still have a price increase because the components have a tariff.
B&C (Italy) now owns Eminence.....and their manufacturing in China.
 
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I wouldn't pay it for now... if they chase it up just claim you never received the letter. I assume this was regular post and you didn't sign for that letter? ;)


JSmith
FYI: ICE stands for Immigration and CUSTOMS Enforcement. Those guys will seize him and his speakers, and send them to Devil's Island! :D
 
"There are no tariffs if you build inside the US"

I doubt there’s much of a market for a gaudy bejazzelled gold paint encrusted monstrosity of a U.S. built speaker, it’d have bloated b.ass, swollen mids and shrieky annoying treble.

And don’t expect to see any scientific measurements, oh no….
 
Here's an expanded list of US speaker manufacturers. There are likely more.

Volti Audio - TN
Klipschorn - AK
Magnepan - MN
GR Research - TX
PBN Audio/Liberty Audio - TX
Spatial Audio Lab - UT
Vandersteen Audio - CA
Wilson Audio - CA
Fritz Speakers - CA
Odyssey Audio - IN
Tyler Acoustics - KY
Legacy Audio - IL
Magico Speakers - CA
Ascend Acoustics -CA
JTR Audio - WI
Daedalus Audio - WA
Aerial Acoustics - MA
Rockport Technologies - ME
Avalon Acoustics - CO
Eggleston Works - TN
Danley Sound Labs - GA
 
I would not pay anything if I already had the speakers. I would throw it in the trash, let FedEx send the bill to a collection agency, and tell the collection agent to pound sand. The import duty has already been paid and if FedEx was stupid enough to pay for it themselves and send you a bill then they can take it up with the federal government. They’ll have a lot more sway than any of us will.
 
Here's an expanded list of US speaker manufacturers. There are likely more.

Volti Audio - TN
Klipschorn - AK
Magnepan - MN
GR Research - TX
PBN Audio/Liberty Audio - TX
Spatial Audio Lab - UT
Vandersteen Audio - CA
Wilson Audio - CA
Fritz Speakers - CA
Odyssey Audio - IN
Tyler Acoustics - KY
Legacy Audio - IL
Magico Speakers - CA
Ascend Acoustics -CA
JTR Audio - WI
Daedalus Audio - WA
Aerial Acoustics - MA
Rockport Technologies - ME
Avalon Acoustics - CO
Eggleston Works - TN
Danley Sound Labs - GA
I suspect all of those source (at least some) components and/or materials outside the U.S.
 
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Here's an expanded list of US speaker manufacturers. There are likely more.

Volti Audio - TN
Klipschorn - AK
Magnepan - MN
GR Research - TX
PBN Audio/Liberty Audio - TX
Spatial Audio Lab - UT
Vandersteen Audio - CA
Wilson Audio - CA
Fritz Speakers - CA
Odyssey Audio - IN
Tyler Acoustics - KY
Legacy Audio - IL
Magico Speakers - CA
Ascend Acoustics -CA
JTR Audio - WI
Daedalus Audio - WA
Aerial Acoustics - MA
Rockport Technologies - ME
Avalon Acoustics - CO
Eggleston Works - TN
Danley Sound Labs - GA

Several of those *assemble* in the US with parts coming from all over the world.
 
Here's an expanded list of US speaker manufacturers. There are likely more.

Volti Audio - TN
Klipschorn - AK
Magnepan - MN
GR Research - TX
PBN Audio/Liberty Audio - TX
Spatial Audio Lab - UT
Vandersteen Audio - CA
Wilson Audio - CA
Fritz Speakers - CA
Odyssey Audio - IN
Tyler Acoustics - KY
Legacy Audio - IL
Magico Speakers - CA
Ascend Acoustics -CA
JTR Audio - WI
Daedalus Audio - WA
Aerial Acoustics - MA
Rockport Technologies - ME
Avalon Acoustics - CO
Eggleston Works - TN
Danley Sound Labs - GA
I owned the Ascend LX, since I bought it, the price went up due to tariffs on the parts, such as the cabinets and drivers.

80% of the other brands you listed here aren't something I would buy due the lack of performance and/or value and I am saying this in the most polite way possible.

Oh, I nearly fell to the floor laughing when I saw GR Research on your list, which by the way, nearly everything GR Research sells are either the finish product imported from China or the parts imported from China.
 
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