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3 way active with real punch.. which way would you go.? Pro driver or .?

(sorry for this huge edit^^)
No, thank you very much and Merci for your detailed answer.

I'm currently listening with two DSP-activated B&C 8FCX51s and an active 18-inch Beyma subwoofer. That's more than enough for my living room and is visually very unobtrusive.

A long time ago I installed the coaxial 4590 and the 4550 from BMS. Very impressive drivers with very clear sound.

I only need them for domestic use, so the PA drivers run more or less at idle and hardly produce any distortion.
 
The AXIS phase plug is perfect, with a smooth, non-flared exit (0° directivity) and a decent diaphragm, although we will encounter some significant issues in the high frequencies.
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The problem is the rationale behind it. Phase alignment is not really an issue, as our brains are not highly sensitive to it. A properly implemented speaker with correct DSP delay is already technically perfect. From a purely technical standpoint, this is not a strong argument. From a marketing perspective, however, it is a different story.

It is difficult to determine which market Celestion is targeting with this design. Measurements on the SEOS 30 show that directivity control is lost quickly due to the 2" exit. They try to compensate the ring lost of surface by increasing the ring to 5", but this does not really provide significant more output relative to displacement compared to a plain 4".

The red horn was provided with a polar where the red was plain from +6dB to -12dB then stepped by -6dB, they remove it since, impossible to see the behavior of it but this kind of design is not know to be very good in directivity.

That is on the paper, now lets look the measurement:

The distortion at 100dB SPL (aka the dB level at 1m) on SEOS 30 EQ flat speak from itself, 250hz, no, 400/450hz maximum yes :
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It's the same performance more or less than a JBL 2450SL or regular coax driver like DCX464 or BMS 4594HE.

Then come the HF problem with a 2" throat :
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Sonogram in HF (temporal behavior):
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Breackup and throat resonances starting very early since 4khz, leading to temporal accident and harsh directivity.

The HF performance are poor on every plan, if the driver was tinier and in 1.5", may be, but the actual conclusion is that the JBL 2450SL is an excellent driver and perform close for the same 400/450hz crossover (tested on mine byradial 60cm) and with a better behavior in HF.

The RCF 950 (1.4" with 4" dia) or coax driver can be interesting too, but be careful, all radiating surface are annular in a coax driver, it can bring max SPL problem in low end due to rising H2, even if constructor give more X-max to the mid-range unit, it will not solve the H2 problem as it's related to excursion (it's fine in home usage).

The reality of the market is that woofer perform better than compression driver bellow 700/800hz, there is also solutions to add some directivity to a 15" whiteout use a WG with it.
If they release a 1.5" version with a tinier annular dia it could be more interesting, for now I cannot recommend this compression driver.
 
No, I meant this one.
As far as I can see, they all have a ring radiator design




The DE360, 95dB SPL on X-Shape X25 EQ flat:
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I keep my 18Sound 1" for "relatively low" crossover ^^, if you cut it at 2.3khz it should be good.

For the 1.4" one just look frequency response and impedance, accident are visible on different type of measurement, temporal, directivity and even on axis response, it's relatively easy to guess the breakup region just with a not too smoothed frequency response.
 
But compared to this horn
https://www.eighteensound.it/en/products/horn/1-4/0/XT1464 , why must both of your horns have such narrow coverage, especially vertically? https://audiohorn.net/next-gen-bi-radial-horn/
It’s normal for a biradial to not be constant in the middle of the range because of the profile, biradials privilege the horizontal dispersion and loading, they are interesting in big size, my biradial will be replaced by a new 60cm version, the tinier one is not more produced.

For the X-Shape it’s vertically close to the 18S horn you show, just be careful with the color scale: Yellow is at -6 dB for me, dark orange for the 18S.

It’s hard to tell with this scale but the X-Shape looks like it gives a little bit more with a generous 60°.
The 18S horn you posted is 50° vertically.

Note: it shouldn’t change something but the 18S polars are simulated ones while mine are real measurements.
Please evaluate the ND1480BE for H2 and H3 distortion.
H2 is mainly related to diaphragm excursion, so I wouldn’t expect a major difference there. The same goes for H3, same motor, Allu , N and Ti (on the same motor, 18S 1480 here), perform already the same in all distortion even if their breakup behavior are different.

The main change is the breakup frequency (same for the other 3), which is pushed higher. It’s not as high as TAD’s vapor-deposited beryllium (since in our case it’s embossed beryllium), but still higher placed than the 16–17 kHz breakup of a titanium 3" diaphragm. However, this isn’t really a game-changer, since that frequency range is already in a less sensitive part of our hearing range and contains very little actual musical information.

Be is more interesting with a 4" diaphragm, but even there the dark blue diaphragm of the 2450SL is still impressive.

Don’t get me wrong, we can hear 16–17 kHz, but compared to midrange sensitivity, proper measurements show we are about −15 dB to −40 dB down relative to midrange level on a calibrated device, depending on age and individual hearing changes. In practical data our system sensitivity decrease from 8khz and in a exponential like fashion in most cases:
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=> https://www.compadre.org/nexusph/course/Frequency_response_of_the_human_ear

The peak around 3 kHz varies from person to person, so it’s hard to generalize. You don’t need to EQ specifically for this, as your brain compensates for some of these aspects naturally.

All these different diaphragm materials are about finding a balance between weight, stiffness, and damping. The stiffer the material, the higher the breakup frequency will be, but also the more violent the breakup becomes. It is a trade-off. In this game, regular titanium performs very well, even if its breakup comes 1 or 2 kHz earlier to Be ones, it is not very violent. The combination of the breakup frequency and his more or less violent temporal attached behavior keeps the resulting artifacts below human sensitivity as we see upper, for temporal behavior to be truly audible, it usually has to be significant and occur above 9–10 kHz, here is the 18S 1460.


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Even if your hearing is perfect, it is already about −15 dB below high midrange at best. If the breakup temporal issues are also around −15/-20 dB, in your auditory system this adds up to roughly −30/35 dB. Considering that there is not much actual musical information in that range, you will likely not notice it.
 
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