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2025 Music Discovery Award!!!

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Mostly Autumn Seawater

One of my 2025 favourites. Track 6 - When Nations Collide and the title track form a mini-suite with an apocalyptic theme… (Yes,1970’s prog is my thing )
It took me a minute to figure out that "Seawater" is the track and "Mostly Autumn" is the band. New to me. I have been sampling their music for the last half hour. I can't make up my mind about a band doing this kind of thing in a few minutes but it sounds very promising. The closest thing in the present day that I can think of is "War on Drugs", just the electric guitar parts, not the vocal. Some metal vocal style growling which is a spoiler for me, but hopefully they don't do too much of that.
(In Canada, we have a fairly well know prog-rock band called Rush. I saw them 3 times in live performance in the early 1970s. I could not stand Lee Geddy's lead vocal and ignored them for the next 30 years. I have to admit they have put out some great music. But to me I need to hear a singer, not a screecher, yeller or growler.)
I found this interesting write up as well. This band has been performing for 30 years!!
Not long ago I spoke with a promoter in a Canadian city who mostly programmed mid size arenas (2-3000 attendees). He indicated that the form was dead, because bands that play that kind of space can't obtain recognition through radio play, like they could in 1973. So it's incredibly different in these days to build a following. This might also help explain the number of solo artists. But it's either play a club, or a festival in the summer only. Then nothing in between unless you're Taylor Swift and can do a stadium tour.
 
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1.5 years is problematic. For example, last year's winner "Between Two Points" was resubmitted this year, and does fall within 1.5 years. A one month overlap back to December 1 is adequate in my view.
And on the "track original release date" you face two issues. What is the original track? An audio version only on spotify, which is common, with only a performance video to show on youtube? And in some cases, with a group on the rise, a performance video precedes a label contract, which then releases a professional studio version. Does the date of the performance "original" override the studio version release? Second problem, having identified an original version of the song, which takes work, what was the release date? Because you could be looking at a CD that was available in a merch display, a spotify or bandcamp release date, or a youtube release date.
Whereas the specific release date of the submitted video can be determined in 20 seconds.
Of course, the actual rule will be whatever amir decides so this discussion is somewhat hypothetical.
Well I'm not a music production expert, but I'd generally go along with the first official Youtube release for the track re the date. We can have debates on that & Amir can decide. I'd like to see 1.5 yrs though because I feel there's nothing lost if the same track wins both years as that would be just testimony to how good it was. Some users on here have convinced me that we need to include more than one years worth because obviously stuff released in December (for instance) isn't going to gain the same traction.
 
OMG? You mean to say LynyrdSkynyrd were white men?o_O
I am not sure what you mean by that. I am just stating the obvious; it is not a critical remark. I will leave that to the sociologists which I decidedly am not. I do like the fact that today there is much broader representation in music, ethnically, internationally, and in gender, and that's a good thing.
 
Well I'm not a music production expert, but I'd generally go along with the first official Youtube release for the track re the date. We can have debates on that & Amir can decide. I'd like to see 1.5 yrs though because I feel there's nothing lost if the same track wins both years as that would be just testimony to how good it was. Some users on here have convinced me that we need to include more than one years worth because obviously stuff released in December (for instance) isn't going to gain the same traction.
Just a footnote. I did concede December 1st. We'll consider your post the last word. ;)
 
It took me a minute to figure out that "Seawater" is the track and "Mostly Autumn" is the band. New to me. I have been sampling their music for the last half hour. I can't make up my mind about a band doing this kind of thing in a few minutes but it sounds very promising. The closest thing in the present day that I can think of is "War on Drugs", just the electric guitar parts, not the vocal. Some metal vocal style growling which is a spoiler for me, but hopefully they don't do too much of that.
(In Canada, we have a fairly well know prog-rock band called Rush. I saw them 3 times in live performance in the early 1970s. I could not stand Lee Geddy's lead vocal and ignored them for the next 30 years. I have to admit they have put out some great music. But to me I need to hear a singer, not a screecher, yeller or growler.)
I found this interesting write up as well. This band has been performing for 30 years!!
Not long ago I spoke with a promoter in a Canadian city who mostly programmed mid size arenas (2-3000 attendees). He indicated that the form was dead, because bands that play that kind of space can't obtain recognition through radio play, like they could in 1973. So it's incredibly different in these days to build a following. This might also help explain the number of solo artists. But it's either play a club, or a festival in the summer only. Then nothing in between unless you're Taylor Swift and can do a stadium tour.
“Sight of Day” is my favourite of their albums. But the track ‘The Gap is Too Wide’ (on an older album - can’t remember its name) may be their best track.

They are nice people - I’ve met them a few times after gigs.
 
Some of the other music that I discovered in 2025 (=released in 2025, at youtube).
None would be make them worthy for these nominations but they were noteworthy for me none-the-less.
  • Balu Brigada - So Cold
  • Bakar - Lonyo
  • FountainesDC - It's Amazing to be Young
  • Geese - Au Pays du Cocaine [AI'd?]
  • Nation of Language - Inept Apollo
  • Djo - Awake
All "white men"?
I am not sure what you mean by that.
We did not much care what color music wore: Neither in 1973 or 2026!;)
 
Some of the other music that I discovered in 2025 (=released in 2025, at youtube).
None would be make them worthy for these nominations but they were noteworthy for me none-the-less.
  • Balu Brigada - So Cold
  • Bakar - Lonyo
  • FountainesDC - It's Amazing to be Young
  • Geese - Au Pays du Cocaine [AI'd?]
  • Nation of Language - Inept Apollo
  • Djo - Awake
All "white men"?

We did not much care what color music wore: Neither in 1973 or 2026!;)
I don't know who "we" is. I don't even know who you are. If you were colour blind, then good for you.

My personal experience was different. I was 11 when the Beatles exploded on the scene. Much of the music that came out when I began to listen to top 40 radio, although certainly not all of it, was black music performed by white musicians. Why was that? In the 1950s and early 1960s, black music was segregated from white music, with just a few crossovers, notably, Ray Charles, Sam Cooke and Billie Holiday. Have you read much of the experience of these musicians? They had their difficulties, let's put it that way.
To their credit, bands like the Rolling Stones, Blues Breakers, Cream, Led Zepellin and early Fleetwood Mac, and so on, gave at least a nod, and sometimes but not always, a writer's credit to the American blues music they copied. John Lennon noted that it took the British to do that, because the Pat Boone's and Presley's of the world, did not.
The first black music I heard in Alberta, Canada, as a child, was Motown, which I liked, but no "soul music", no James Brown, Aretha Franklyn or Sam & Dave.
Our family moved to the Toronto in 1967 and the music mix on the radio was entirely different. Aretha Franklyn was all over the Toronto airwaves. I did not like the sound, to be honest. It was new, and sounded rough to me. And that's because black America and black Canada were like a foreign country to us, with a different culture and very different music. It took time to like black music. By 1973, many barriers to performance had vanished, but far too late for the Robert Johnson's and Leadbelly's to obtain the broader recognition they deserved. And there was still an imbalance. I remember how the Osmond family, who essentially performed shite, had a prime time variety show, while their much more accomplished "rivals" (of a sort), the Jackson Five, got a brief 2 month summer replacement show. At the time, I thought that was quite f-d up.

Okay, so to you there was no difference. I think there was though, in the music business.
 
it shouldn't just be a new live performance of an old track, it should be the track original release date.
I disagree. A reinterpration is something new, take for instance Glenn Gould's goldberg variations, it's Bach, yet entirely new to people's ears. Same for a remix.
''Released in 2025" is good enough.
 
I disagree. A reinterpration is something new, take for instance Glenn Gould's goldberg variations, it's Bach, yet entirely new to people's ears. Same for a remix.
''Released in 2025" is good enough.
And it came to me later, that if you disallow live tracks based on the song being older, you could have the greatest live track ever, and it could never be considered for video track of the year. That just seems wrong to me.
 
I disagree. A reinterpration is something new, take for instance Glenn Gould's goldberg variations, it's Bach, yet entirely new to people's ears. Same for a remix.
''Released in 2025" is good enough.
Ok, perhaps for a significant reinterpretation or remix, but a simple Live performance of an existing track then I think that should harp back to the original release date of the track rather than the Youtube date for the Live Performance.
 
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