2 way or three way speaker

[Forty six and two]

I have a 3 way speaker and recently i have noticed that most the sound including vocals is coming from the mid range speaker. Tweeter is like it’s not even there.
My question is so in a two way speaker does the tweeter do all the work ? I mean all the sound and vocals comes from tweeter except the bass in a two way speaker?

Thanks.

 

[Sokel]

I have a 3 way speaker and recently i have noticed that most the sound including vocals is coming from the mid range speaker. Tweeter is like it’s not even there.
My question is so in a two way speaker does the tweeter do all the work ? I mean all the sound and vocals comes from tweeter except the bass in a two way speaker?

Thanks.

In a two-way tweeter does exactly what it does in a three way too.
It's the mid that does the extra work to reproduce the lows too in a two-way, where in a three-way are reproduced by the woofer.

 

[Forty six and two]

It's the mid that does the extra work to reproduce the lows too in a two-way,

But there is no mid range driver in a two way speaker. I did not understand your reply

 

[Grotti]

But there is no mid range driver in a two way speaker. I did not understand your reply

In a typical 2-way-speaker, the midwoofer does exactly, what the name indicates: it reproduces the bass frequencies and the midrange up to about 2 - 3 kHz. The rest of the audible spectrum is reproduced by the tweeter. Keep in mind, that a human voice is mainly reproduced by the midwoofer, the tweeter adds the highlights and some spacial information.

 

[SSS]

I have a 3 way speaker and recently i have noticed that most the sound including vocals is coming from the mid range speaker. Tweeter is like it’s not even there.
My question is so in a two way speaker does the tweeter do all the work ? I mean all the sound and vocals comes from tweeter except the bass in a two way speaker?

Thanks.

For a two-way speaker the crossover frequency is around between 2 kHz and 4 kHz. So depending on the speaker chassis voice is mainly delivered by the woofer thus used also for the mid.

 

[Sokel]

But there is no mid range driver in a two way speaker. I did not understand your reply

A two-way speaker has two drivers,a tweeter and a mid (mid-bass for better description) .
A three way speaker has three drivers,a tweeter,a mid and a woofer.

At both configurations the tweeter's x-over will be the same usually somewhere between 1500-3500Hz,depending the speaker.

 

[Verig]

Depends on the design. For example Amphion Argon has crossover point of 1600Hz and Mark and Daniel Ruby goes down to 800Hz which is markedly low. For more "normal" crossover without exotic drivers, for example Elac Debut, it's around 3kHz.

 

[Elkerton]

In a 2 way, the bigger driver does all of the work, both mid frequencies and low. In a 3 way, the mids are crossed over to the bass driver, lightening the load on the mid range driver, reducing the intermodulation distortion, where the low notes are affecting the higher, and usually, increasing power handling.

 

[Verig]

You could make a speaker with full range element and just clean up / add the upper air with a tweeter crossed at 8kHz or so. In this case all musical information comes from the single driver and tweeter just spices things a bit.

Dynaudio Emit 50 has points at 540 and 4400Hz. In this case the tweeter has surprisingly little to do and you hear most of the actual music from the mid.

What speakers do you have?

 

[MaxwellsEq]

Whether a 2-way, or 3-way, a normal* loudspeaker almost all vocal sound comes from the midrange driver (3-way) or bass-midrange driver (2-way). The tweeter in both 2- and 3-way designs only contributes to the tttttt, ssss, zzzz speech sounds. If your tweeter is broken, vocals can sound a bit soft, but only slightly. Tweeters are also responsible for the starting edge of some sounds such as striking a cymbal or plucking a guitar string.

* As someone will point out, there are some rare speakers where a special tweeter contributes more of the vocals

 

[gwing]

* As someone will point out, there are some rare speakers where a special tweeter contributes more of the vocals

And also some rare 3 way designs where the mid goes up exceptionally high and even less comes out of the tweeter.

 

[Zek]

I have a 3 way speaker and recently i have noticed that most the sound including vocals is coming from the mid range speaker.

What specific speaker is it and what are the crossed frequencies in the crossover?
Maybe the crossover point for the tweeter is set high, or maybe the tweeter is broken (A common occurrence in tweeters that contain ferrofluid that hardens over time.)

 

[ppataki]

You could make a speaker with full range element and just clean up / add the upper air with a tweeter crossed at 8kHz or so. In this case all musical information comes from the single driver and tweeter just spices things a bit.

Dynaudio Emit 50 has points at 540 and 4400Hz. In this case the tweeter has surprisingly little to do and you hear most of the actual music from the mid.

What speakers do you have?

Or the other way around: use for example a BMR full range from the top down to about 500Hz and then cross it to a woofer

 

[Verig]

Or the other way around: use for example a BMR full range from the top down to about 500Hz and then cross it to a woofer

That looks like much better than "good old" FR elements that try to do bass and try to do treble failing both. Looks a bit healthier than the Mark&Daniel style I mentioned too.
And now I want those...

 

[FrantzM]

Hi

It can be an issue of seating or listening, too close to a specific speaker. That would be the case for 2 or 3 ways.

Peace.

 

[LSPhil]

this phenomenon is known if we listen to three-way speakers, that everything is heard from one midrange speaker, it is simply the acoustic sum of these signals. if we cover the tweeter with our hand, we will hear a change

 

[mixsit]

Can't help but mention the SPTech Continuum ADMk3's. Cross overs are down around 6-700Hz.

 

[LSPhil]

Can't help but mention the SPTech Continuum ADMk3's. Cross overs are down around 6-700Hz.

I find it hard to believe in such miracles.

 

[Steven Holt]

I'll just throw this in : if you have a speaker -- any speaker -- you can disconnect the tweeter and still have a speaker. If you disconnect the woofer and keep the tweeter, you no longer have a speaker. It will sound like an AM transistor radio. In any conventional speaker, the woofer is the critical component and your purchase should be based on the quality of that component.