@Doodski thank you, the pdf is very useful i know i read it's a tank :)
I've tried a Luxman L 3 lately, but I could hear some tube sound, with my Sansui SP 3500 speakers, while with the older brother, 4 VN 990, they were fine.
they also offered me a Luman L 230 for 250 euros, but I gave up...