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I was clumsy, socially and intellectually, in my original post. It is inherent in an ostensibly review site that it is about consumption. I was trying, as said clumsily, to stimulate debate about consumption. I’m totally with you on your first 2 paragraphs. The same! As to the third... When...

All of Liz Frazer’s work on Massive Attack’s Mezzanine

Great article on her: https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/jul/27/laura-nyro-the-phenomenal-singers-singer-the-60s-overlooked

Imagine wanting a snack. And your fingers are right there. How convenient!

Thank you thefsb. Adds to understanding!

How efficient is that beast? Totally with you on the use of (some) resources. How many Watts does it consume for each Watt it puts out?

They or we? Do you not have agency. There is truth, I believe, to the sedating power of consumption. We all have power. How we spend. How we consume. “We buy because we are told to and it is what my class of people do.” Do you not have free will?

Absolutely. It requires economy wide solutions. As individuals that is beyond our scope. We all have power. How we choose to spend.

I did S-level biology in the late ‘80s. One question on the final exam was: “You are what you eat. Discuss” My answer: True, if cannibal. I passed.

You, gsp1971, are imbued with wisdom. This post I treasure. There are those with insight and care. Thank you.

https://www.fairphone.com/en/ Not perfect. A start

Well... You posited that the argument could be made. I agree. Make the argument!

Or the source as the problem?

Yes. Until the phone is no longer supported for security updates in 3 years. And then your bank account is empty and you have to sell your amp and speakers to buy a new phone. But otherwise yes.

Tori Amos, “Me and a gun”

Absolutely. Want to have a crack?

If we are just after good answers it’s not a debate. If we can engender thought well...

That, Jim, is gold! Thank you. Trying to respect everyone and reply in kind has been exhausting. You have given me a laugh. Thank you

To all who have responded to my OP, thank you. I did not communicate well what I thought was my point. To all who answered in spirit. Thank you. To all who questioned. Thank you. To all who answered, pissed off. Thank you. I was not, am not, interested in causing upset. Just learning. To all...

Thank you Voodooless. This thread has been educational. I will try, and fail, but try agin to be less clumsy.