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I called the store. Apparently the Vestia line is being discontinued. Which is strange since they're not that old. Price-wise, the top models in the Vestia line overlap with the entry-level models in the Aria line, which is a little confusing.

It's definitely the price for a pair. They've been at this price for months now. Which makes me wonder if there's anything wrong.

That's interesting to read because it goes against a lot of things that I read online or in user's manuals. Most user manuals I read have a certain distance that they recommend. Quick question: what do you guys think of Focal Vestia n°4 at half price (1,700 instead of 3,500)?

Yeah I know, but it's going to take months before I get a chance to do that as there are no hifi stores anywhere near where I live. The one I was able to visit in the nearest town was only retailing Marantz and Cabasse and that's it.

Thanks! I agree, the list is too long. I don't know enough about speakers to be able to identify which ones would suit my needs in that list, so I wasn't sure what to get rid of. I just listed them so that it might give you a sense of what is available where I live because on another forum for...

I think I'll go with the Denon 4800H since the price difference with the 3800H is negligible and it's available in silver. Anyway big thanks to everyone who posted here, if you want to help me buy speakers, I started a thread here.

Hi, I’m looking for a pair of column speakers to pair up with a Denon AVC X4800H. I will use them for both music and movies. At some point I will add a central speaker, satellites and possibly a subwoofer if needed. My room is approximately 25m3. The speakers will be positioned 3 meters from...

Thank you for the recommendation. Why 3800H or 6800H rather than 4800H? This review by amirm seems to indicate that the 3800H is much worse than the 4800H as far as the DAC is concerned.

I see. I was thinking more in terms of BD/UHD discs of movies in mono/stereo. Not sure if it makes sense to send the same audio signal to five speakers, or if the AVR somehow artificially creates something resembling a surround experience. I'm pretty sure I would never want to do that with...

Streaming adds a whole additional layer of complexity that I initially dismissed because it's hurting my brain just to have to factor that in. I was leaning towards the "I don't need it so whatever the amp has I won't use it anyway", because it seems like you need to use a dedicated app (or do...

I do watch an average of 300 movies a year, only they're all pre-80's so only a handful of them in the 70's go beyond stereo (the Hollywood stuff and not all of it). That's the reason why I'm not 100% "sold" on the benefits of surround sound considering my very specific situation, especially as...

I interpreted your previous message (with the context of your earlier messages) as saying "You don't really need an AVR. You just need a 2-channel amp as you will save on those extra features you'll only be using very occasionally." Re-reading it now it's not literally what it said so I'm really...

Well that's not the consensus since some people here seem to think that you're not actually paying for more when buying a AVR due to reasons mentioned previously.

Related question: does an audio amp treat a stereo signal transmitted with an HDMI or coaxial cable as stereo? Or does that require codecs that only an A/VR has? In other words, does the benefit of having an A/V receiver extend beyond just movies with a surround soundtrack or is it strictly the...

You're right, I should start by considering what my budget is and what that can get me and whether a more expensive amp such the Yamaha I listed is objectively better than the cheaper ones you mentioned (I had never heard of those brands before). My budget is around 5,000€ for amp+speakers...

Because that's a lot of money.

That's the whole point of this thread. Because 5.1 or 7.1 audio is rare enough in my collection that if the Yamaha is better for 2-channel audio then it's not worth buying the Denon if I am only going to use 5.1 or 7.1 audio very rarely. As someone who does not know much about modern hi-fi, it...

Hmm. Seems like there's no real consensus then.

Of the ones I listed, which one would that be?

I plan on using the amp both for music and movies. 95% of my blu-ray/UHD collection is mono or audio. The "marginal use" is for the remaining 5% which are 3.1, 5.1 or 7.1. What I don't understand is why extra-features are necessarily bad if I use them only very occasionally.