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Interesting. So you mean all amps sound the same or only amps without a DAC inside? My SMSL AO300 did not sound the same like the Marantz 60n with the same speakers.

Hey i am not hating on NAD or Dirac. I am just curious how both amps sound out of the box. I want the NAD M10 V3 to buy. The NAD also have 5 years waranty in our country.

Some people dont use Dirac like me. 1500€ extra for Dirac? The M1 has a H/L crossover, Tone controls, Sound modes, and more.

Yeah i want to know if the M1 sounds better then the NAD M10 V3. Marantz Model M1 - 1000€ NAD M10 V3 - 2500€ They both have: 100W@8ohm, Sub crossover, HDMI EARC, streaming platform, Pure about sound the M1 has a better value because it is 1500€ cheaper. It all depends wich options you want...

Anyone tried the new NAD M10 V3 ? The M10 V3 retains everything that made the original M10 and M10 V2 so beloved, but enhances the platform with the addition of NAD's new BC1 IR remote, support for optional Dirac Live Bass Control*, a high-quality dedicated phono input (MM) and an improved DAC...

Yeah seems like only the dac is a little bit better but i do not think we can hear the difference.

There are not much reviews yet, about this amp.

USB, it only happens once a week or so

If i leave my PC desk very fast the music stops for like 3 seconds, it is very weird. It only happens when i leave very fast and not all the time.

I hope they do not forget to connect the grounding cable like with the AO300 :D

You can also take a special route for a great sound. :cool: S.M.S.L RAW-HA1 + Speedwoofer 12s

Edit: Sorry i misread the post above.

You can buy it as a nice combo with the new better DAC also. https://shenzhenaudio.com/collections/s-m-s-l/products/s-m-s-l-raw-dac1-raw-ha1-rca-cable-combo

Nice combo :) https://shenzhenaudio.com/collections/s-m-s-l/products/s-m-s-l-raw-dac1-raw-ha1-rca-cable-combo

They are both good DAC's. For it's price the J2 with the AKM chip is a very good DAC. Only trust your own ears not only the measurments are important.

I am sure the SMSL RAW-HA1 sounds better and it is only 250€ in Europe. https://www.smsl-audio.com/portal/product/detail/id/895.html

First review on YouTube:

It is better to buy the new SMSL RAW-HA1 now! https://www.smsl-audio.com/portal/product/detail/id/895.html

M1 destroy's the Wiim AMP. It is not all about measuring distortion because there is also positive distortion to make music sound better.

If you want a proper subwoofer management then you need the Marantz Model M1 with low and high crossover settings. And it is also an upgrade from the WXA-50. The WXA-50 sounds better then the WiiM AMP so make sure you do not downgrade or sidegrade.