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However, other than looks - can I tell the difference between a DAC with a SINAD of 120 and one of 117 using a double blind test? Once it's past the level of hearing, it's users preference...which may come down to features, ergonomics, or I dare say it...a pretty face.

Design....my wife can use a Walmart purse - it does the job, but she prefers Coach or Brahmin.

That's why I voted great, what's wrong isn't audible...and the looks are stunning.

Too much....even for me.

There's always an "itch" to possibly resell. In the space of about 2 years, I went from the Gustard x-18, to the SU-9N, then the Denafrips. In the midst of the X-18 and the SU-9N I also sold a MiniDSP Flex for pennies. Hey...if you ever get the itch and I'm selling you need to hit me up :);)...

It's a value at the price I bought it, if you can find a deal. I want to keep with this thread about the Ares/Enyo as the new Enyo is selling for $850 +, used Ares II are still going for $625 + ...so I had little to lose by trying the Ares, and someone in my family will get good DAC in the SMSL...

Can I hear 105db...is it audible? They say most humans only can go to 80db. So it's inaudible...vanity of vanity...all is vanity

I didn't trash the SMSL...it would have never made it into my rig if I thought it was trash, it just depreciates in value quickly. I do like the look and feel of gear. Once we're past audible performance - what else is there? The fantastic inexpensive gear becomes like computer printers...

You say middling results, but the shortcomings are inaudible. So why bother with something that may feel cheaply built? The dac's sound the same...right? Changing filters or adding colorations (like I can with my SU-9N) are the only way you can get two basically transparent dacs to sound...

"But with audio where you can objectively measure performance and claim you are getting a better subjective experience is absolute BS." I firmly disagree with you here....you can get a better subjective experience if you are looking at it. Some things just look better than others. Computers for...

I have two dacs in my system a S.M.S.L. SU-9N and the Denafrips Ares II with 12th software upgrade. I've looked at the objective data and both are audibly transparent (what shortcomings the Denafrips has are inaudible). I bought the Denafrips used ($500 shipping included) and the SMSL new $400...

Software bugs can be one of the most frustrating things about a streamer. I voted not terrible - but if the software issues are corrected - it would be great!

Good talking points ! I must admit bias to OCA because his EQ techniques and videos are out of this world (if you can sit through 1hr + videos )! However you raise interesting counter arguments. I'm just going to sit back and continue learning.

Excellent work! When I'm looking for a subwoofer (key word is sub) ... I'm looking at the most spl without distortion at the lowest frequencies. I'm not worried about anything over say 200hz because I use a 60hz crossover point. The Arendals look great!!!!! Well done!!!! Wish you would have had...

Now you're talkin'

No...its not. The distorted figures of Picasso are a distortion of the original models. It is his personal interpretation of what's before his eyes. Impressionism, cubism, surrealism, pointillism...these are all art styles...none of which are photo-realism or photography (which are art forms as...

Even though I prefer digital, you're correct with your analogy.

Artwork is in the eye of the beholder. I'm also a dual Golden Key Award winner (circa 1984). Someone may discover my works after I'm dead (actually had one piece hang in Congress for a year back in high school - won a Congressional art award, I think that was in 1981). Point of the matter is...

I don't like it...never have...never will. Is this type of art accurate to the source material or is it an expression of the artist ideal of the source material? I'm very familiar with Picasso...it's just not my cup of tea - the same way many don't like the OMA 3 turntable - but to others, it's...

What made Picasso famous? I'm not a fan of his art nor his style. I'm not a fan of Jackson Pollock either, but people pay thousands or even millions for these "works of art". The exotic materials, style, etc may not float your boat. They may add little to no practical performance increases, but...