I would be wary of that statement. It's also the acronym for the Australian Security Intelligence Organisation.Asio is your friend
I would be wary of that statement. It's also the acronym for the Australian Security Intelligence Organisation.Asio is your friend
but someone in the case we are talking about (sending signal from motherboard SPDIF ouput) can't use ASIO with Foobar (or any other player)...Asio is your friend
and he has an optical input with built-in DAC in the speaker (also limited to 24/96)Hi, my speaker is dali zensor 5ax, if i buy d10 balanced model, can i connect it as balanced to the 3.5mm input on the back of the speaker?
Good proof to not short balanced to single endedFor completeness, as pictured above, I tried the TS-RCA to convert the balanced output to a single-ended signal. While the oscilloscope tracings above look fine, have a look at what happened using the high resolution THD+N graph:
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[ Clearly, there is a significant increase in distortion if we use a simple converter adaptor that ties the sleeve and ring connections. Notice that I showed the -3dBFS FFT just to make sure the extra distortions are not due to clipping (basically no difference between 0dBFS and -3dBFS). Realize though that a THD+N of around -85dB actually still sounds good even if far from optimal for this DAC. Consider that this is still a better THD+N than the SMSL SA300 desktop amplifier I use. Again, a reminder of just how much resolution DACs have these days compared to the rest of the audio reproduction chain!
Yes. Follow the Topping warning and avoid simple balanced-to-single-ended converters like this. ]
Clearly, there is a significant increase in distortion if we use a simple converter adaptor that ties the sleeve and ring connections.
If you used adapter that shorts ring with sleeve, then it is adapter for cross-coupled outputs.
In case D10 balanced you probably use adapter where ring is not connected at all.
It's what Archimago used during his test, and yes, it was TS so ring linked with sleeve.
TRS and ring not connected is how the Tone2 Pro works, balanced with the three contacts, or unbalanced with tip and sleeve only (but using their special balanced RCA intead of TRS like on the D10b)
If I'm not wrong, it gets -118 SINAD in balanced, and -112 in unbalanced
Would have been interesting to see the results with this TRS without ring to see if it works the same, but I understand the warning as one can use the wrong adaptor so easily.
Don't use ANY adapter to convert to RCA. It's not supported.You are right, we can see this here:
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It would be great to see measurements without ring connected. I hope we can count on Archimago.
Still won't work as intended. You will encounter tens of millivolts of DC and/or loud clicks and pops when switching sampling frequency. So don't.It's what Archimago used during his test, and yes, it was TS so ring linked with sleeve.
TRS and ring not connected is how the Tone2 Pro works, balanced with the three contacts, or unbalanced with tip and sleeve only (but using their special balanced RCA intead of TRS like on the D10b)
If I'm not wrong, it gets -118 SINAD in balanced, and -112 in unbalanced
Would have been interesting to see the results with this TRS without ring to see if it works the same, but I understand the warning as one can use the wrong adaptor so easily.
This conversion adapter is the worst. If you still want to try it, do it at your own risk. As a result, if D10b breaks, don't hold Topping accountable.You are right, we can see this here:
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Bhaf7uApd-U/YQx0fmCghjI/AAAAAAAAcvA/toI1vU5cOEUpZAB-f3ZRVxrxoH31yvnEwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/Topping+D10B+-+Rear+with+TSR-RCA.jpg
It would be great to see measurements without ring connected. I hope we can count on Archimago.
This conversion adapter is the worst. If you still want to try it, do it at your own risk. As a result, if D10b breaks, don't hold Topping accountable.
For completeness, as pictured above, I tried the TS-RCA to convert the balanced output to a single-ended signal. While the oscilloscope tracings above look fine, have a look at what happened using the high resolution THD+N graph:
View attachment 147585
[ Clearly, there is a significant increase in distortion if we use a simple converter adaptor that ties the sleeve and ring connections. Notice that I showed the -3dBFS FFT just to make sure the extra distortions are not due to clipping (basically no difference between 0dBFS and -3dBFS). Realize though that a THD+N of around -85dB actually still sounds good even if far from optimal for this DAC. Consider that this is still a better THD+N than the SMSL SA300 desktop amplifier I use. Again, a reminder of just how much resolution DACs have these days compared to the rest of the audio reproduction chain!
Yes. Follow the Topping warning and avoid simple balanced-to-single-ended converters like this. ]
As an example of a headphone amplifier that doesn't tolerate a DC offset, the manual of JDS Atom Amp+ specifies:Not always.DC doesn't matter. You have a capacitor at input.
So, Atom Amp+ would not be safe to use with D10 Balanced.Atom Amp+ is DC coupled for maximum signal quality and requires an input source with < 4.5mV of DC offset for safe operation.