I will put in a plug for Benchmark's cables.
I just looked up their cables—Belden stock terminated in Canare and Neutrik plugs. Good stuff. Really good prices, too. Is it going to sound different than any other well constructed cable? No. But it will be durable and worth the $35 or so they are charging.I will put in a plug for Benchmark's cables.
He's talking nonsense. They use shielded cable as they should. It's just cheap. There's also no fire hazard using audio cables no matter what they're made from.Can you explain what you mean by "appliance cable"? Do you have pics of a cut cable?
I looked through the list of potentially dangerous products at the end. I have a carton or two of Amazon Basics batteries and one of those outdoor extension cords.
No, I’m not talking nonsense. Look at the markings on the cables. I own them and know they are AWM cable made for wiring appliances, and not for audio. AWM is written on the cable jackets. Case closed. Also, I reported you to the mods for personally attacking me. I almost never do that but it was warranted in this case. Have a little more decorum.He's talking nonsense. They use shielded cable as they should. It's just cheap. There's also no fire hazard using audio cables no matter what they're made from.
If you look up the UL spec, AWM cable is for the manufacture of appliances and machine tools. UL otherwise does not rate low voltage cable—including analog and digital audio cable. So, when a manufacturer is using AWM cable, they are using bulk industrial cable not specifically designed for audio. Like I said above, it’s not necessarily a sign that the cable will be bad, but it’s a sign the manufacturer is manufacturing its cable from stock with a different intended use. I’d rather purchase audio cables built from microphone cable stock. Not because they will sound different, but because they were specifically designed for audio applications, will measure better in terms of capacitance and reactance, and will be shielded in such a way to prevent interference with audio signal. All this instead of using whatever crap they had around in the warehouse, or whatever reason drove them to use AWM cable.AWM (Appliance Wiring Material) is a spec that categorises thousands of cable types for various purposes. Some of them are no doubt coax variants suitable for audio use. There is probably a 4- or 5-digit code on the jacket identifying the exact type.
These UL ratings are mainly concerned with (fire) safety, which is where the "material" part enters the picture. It is largely orthogonal to the electrical properties making a cable suitable or not for audio signals. For example, an RG-59 coax works equally well for signal transfer whatever it is made from, but a PTFE variant, for example, will withstand much higher temperatures than one using PVC or PE, and this can be important for fire safety.If you look up the UL spec, AWM cable is for the manufacture of appliances and machine tools. UL otherwise does not rate low voltage cable—including analog and digital audio cable. So, when a manufacturer is using AWM cable, they are using bulk industrial cable not specifically designed for audio. Like I said above, it’s not necessarily a sign that the cable will be bad, but it’s a sign the manufacturer is manufacturing its cable from stock with a different intended use. I’d rather purchase audio cables built from microphone cable stock. Not because they will sound different, but because they were specifically designed for audio applications, will measure better in terms of capacitance and reactance, and will be shielded in such a way to prevent interference with audio signal. All this instead of using whatever crap they had around in the warehouse, or whatever reason drove them to use AWM cable.
Boohoo. You set a very low bar for the definition of the word "attack".No, I’m not talking nonsense. Look at the markings on the cables. I own them and know they are AWM cable made for wiring appliances, and not for audio. AWM is written on the cable jackets. Case closed. Also, I reported you to the mods for personally attacking me. I almost never do that but it was warranted in this case. Have a little more decorum.
Launching in with ' you are talking nonsense ' isn't the most civil way to go about things and is likely to degrade the discussion, As is this " boohoo " retort.Boohoo. You set a very low bar for the definition of the word "attack".
These UL ratings are mainly concerned with (fire) safety, which is where the "material" part enters the picture. It is largely orthogonal to the electrical properties making a cable suitable or not for audio signals. For example, an RG-59 coax works equally well for signal transfer whatever it is made from, but a PTFE variant, for example, will withstand much higher temperatures than one using PVC or PE, and this can be important for fire safety.
You seem to think they've fitted RCA connectors to a piece of lamp cord. That is not the case.
on the topic of Amazon.. anyone have experience or opinions on JIB Boaacoustic cables.. namely their sold on Amazon "Blackberry" and "Blueberry" line which I found out after purchase was actually made in China and not Germany as their box states?? I mean I only paid $150-200 for the cables, but I feel like I could also easily have just paid $35 for a Chinese made cable and saved the "Made in Germany" premium, or are these in fact good, but they just outsource to China to make a few extra $ in profit?
Why would you pay $150 for a power cable?