MakeMineVinyl
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Fighting words at 4:50
Put up or shut up. Does he really have AP measuring gear?
But wasn’t the unit Ted Smith used when he was complaining about Amir’s results a low end analyzer only capable of 16bit (I can’t clearly remember)?They have several AP units IIRC. Take the youtube factory tour and look at the test/soak benches. They appear to be incredibly well equipped if you ask me.
Having taken a tour of PSA, oh yes they have it. Honestly, I was shocked by how much they actually have. What they do with it VS him, I have no idea. I'd love to hear Darren Myers talk about it as he's very young and fits the Paul model already. Remember, the overhead of PSA is massive as they really do have ~50 employees and a large building. In the end, it's all about the numbers!Put up or shut up. Does he really have AP measuring gear?
Wow. The guy is a moron. Doesn't he realise that plenty of technically competent people examine and understand what Amir is doing so know its just fine.
Fighting words at 4:50
Put up or shut up. Does he really have AP measuring gear? I thought previously they indicated otherwise.
Omar beat me too it by a few seconds.
Paul insinuates that it is Amir's measuring methodology, not the equipment that is flawed. If Paul is confident in this, why doesn't he publish the measuring methodology? In this way, the measurement methodology will be the same and the results verified.
Based on what I've read regarding Amir's review of Denon products and his interaction with Denon engineers, it appears Denon is confident in Amir's knowledge, technical acuity, and ability to accurately measure their products.
Personally, I have confidence in Amir's results. I don't feel the same about PS Audio, which is why I am not, nor will I be, a PS Audio customer.
Good grief John it was Paul that insulted Amir.He doesn't need to. A public data slanging match with an internet review website is not constructive. Not sure why people are always looking for a cockfight with PS Audio, they've been producing gear for many decades and have clearly a wonderful operation full of extremely talented people.
They have plenty of test equipment and no doubt know exactly how to use it. Massively more detailed testing needs to occur than the simple spec numbers indicate and yet people think everything can be boiled down to a few AP plots and a few lines of commentary- it can't. Go look at Bascom's lab in one of the online youtube videos- he too has an older AP (along with plenty of other gear, some custom built). The AP is not the only measuring device a good engineer must have. There have been plenty before and there will plenty after.
In Paul's videos he has a 30 year old Leader LDM-171 sitting behind him as a prop. I still have one on my lab bench also for quick measurements to -80dB and a great AC millivoltmeter down to 30uV. Even that ancient thing is phenomenally useful for certain things.
Here's another AP unit in the video linked above, with a custom load box by the looks:
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It just gets really tiresome, the attacks on PSA. I think it's pathetic to be honest. Either buy their stuff or don't.
We are grown men, not a bunch of silly little internet bullies.
Yes, what struck me is that he went out of his way to disparage somebody else. That was unwarranted as far as I'm concerned. He should just do his video and not editorialize about anybody else.Good grief John it was Paul that insulted Amir.
I have also seen some of his videos where he talks technical nonsense so I don't think the criticism of PSA is without justification