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It is basically a single ended 789. Not really excited for it, too expensive in the light of the L30.

Slight (and it is slight) difference, and its success may ride on how good that pre -amp circuit is. 789 was only pass through.
 

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Schiit Magnius (balanced) or Topping L30 (single ended) is the way to go at this point. The market has moved on from the uber slow Drop model.

Or Atom. There's no sonic benefit in spending 40% more on the L30 unless someone has high sensitivity IEMs that would benefit from the low gain on the L30.
 

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Or Atom. There's no sonic benefit in spending 40% more on the L30 unless someone has high sensitivity IEMs that would benefit from the low gain on the L30.

The switch to preamp , which is lacking on the Atom is a creature comfort for desktop users. Otherwise I agree.
 

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The switch to preamp , which is lacking on the Atom is a creature comfort for desktop users. Otherwise I agree.

As an owner of both right now, I might sell the L30 and keep the Atom. I've come to feel like the toggle switch isn't that much of an advantage.

If the toggle switches weren't so tiny and the writing illegible in all but the best light, I'd probably be more inclined to keep it. But it was apparently designed by 20 to 30-year-old eyes. lol
 

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As an owner of both right now, I might sell the L30 and keep the Atom. I've come to feel like the toggle switch isn't that much of an advantage.

If the toggle switches weren't so tiny and the writing illegible in all but the best light, I'd probably be more inclined to keep it. But it was apparently designed by 20 to 30-year-old eyes. lol
Emmm. Do you really read them each time you toggle?:facepalm:
 
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Emmm. Do you really read them each time you toggle?:facepalm:

Let me guess. You have 20 to 30-year-old eyes?

The toggle is tiny, and I have to peer at it to figure out what position it's in. And unfortunately, the writing is illegible, due to the size, color choice. And the glare off the plexiglass often doesn't help. It's pretty obvious a good visual designer with a usability background didn't give feedback on it. Contrast is a very basic design principle.

This is not a knock against you, John, as engineers are not expected to have training in visual design.

On the other hand, the writing on the Topping D50S and Atom are much easier to see.
 

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Let me guess. You have 20 to 30-year-old eyes?

The toggle is tiny, and I have to peer at it to figure out what position it's in. And unfortunately, the writing is illegible, due to the size, color choice. And the glare off the plexiglass often doesn't help. It's pretty obvious a good visual designer with a usability background didn't give feedback on it. Contrast is a very basic design principle.

This is not a knock against you, John, as engineers are not expected to have training in visual design.

On the other hand, the writing on the Topping D50S and Atom are much easier to see.
Why do you have to look at it.... That's what I don't understand.
(and yes it will be considered in the future design there's no doubt as already mentioned in Amir's review)
 

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Look at the writing? The writing is illegible. The toggle? To see what position its in, but it's not easily legible at a quick glance due to the small size.
Don't people remember the writing in day 1 or day 2?
The toggle is quite big(same as the one in a90) that we were going to change to a smaller one at one stage but we kept current one. I get people can't see the writing easily but the toggle is so indicative how is there a issue? I would love to hear more about it.
 

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Don't people remember the writing in day 1 or day 2?
The toggle is quite big(same as the one in a90) that we were going to change to a smaller one at one stage but we kept current one. I get people can't see the writing easily but the toggle is so indicative how is there a issue? I would love to hear more about it.

I don't understand what you mean by the "toggle is so indicative"? I've owned lots of desktop equipment. Never had one with a toggle or switch this small.

Here's the question for you. Are you old enough yet that you wear progressives or bifocals and have more trouble seeing and dimmer light? If not, you're not going to get it.

And I'm betting not. Because the contrast for the volume notch it's not very good either. It's a tiny microscopic white dot on a red background. There's a reason why it's common to see black dials with larger white notches on it. And it's not so 20 to 30-year-olds can see the notch. lol
 

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I don't understand what you mean by the "toggle is so indicative"? I've owned lots of desktop equipment. Never had one with a toggle or switch this small.

Here's the question for you. Are you old enough yet that you wear progressives or bifocals and have more trouble seeing and dimmer light? If not, you're not going to get it.

And I'm betting not. Because the contrast for the volume notch it's not very good either. It's a tiny microscopic white dot on a red background. There's a reason why it's common to see black dials with larger white notches on it. And it's not so 20 to 30-year-olds can see the notch. lol
The indicator on the volume. Yes. I'm aware of that.

In terms of the toggles... majority of people can operate these with eyes closed. That's the idea.
 
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The indicator on the volume. Yes. I'm aware of that.

In terms of the toggles... majority of people can operate these with eyes closed. That's the idea.

It's not about operating the toggle. It's about being able to glance at it in a fraction of a second and see what position it's in.

When I come back to the computer after several hours and I want to listen to music, I like to glance at the toggle and the volume in a split second and see how everything is set. Rather than having to remember, "Did I use headphones last? Or speakers?" "How is the volume set?" With good visual cues, it becomes an almost automated thing.

Steven Krug, a well-known web develop design usability specialists famously wrote a book called "Don't make me think" about web usability. The idea being to optimize any interface with visual and textual cues to minimize the need to think.
 

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It's not about operating the toggle. It's about being able to glance at it in a fraction of a second and see what position it's in.

When I come back to the computer after several hours and I want to listen to music, I like to glance at the toggle and the volume in a split second and see how everything is set. Rather than having to remember, "Did I use headphones last? Or speakers?" "How is the volume set?" With good visual cues, it becomes an almost automated thing.

Steven Krug, a well-known web develop design usability specialists famously wrote a book called "Don't make me think" about web usability. The idea being to optimize any interface with visual and textual cues to minimize the need to think.
I could see the indicator on the volume knob being not very clear. But not understand how the toggle having any issue.
 

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I could see the indicator on the volume knob being not very clear. But not understand how the toggle having any issue.

Do you wear progressives or bifocals and have trouble seeing and dimmer light? If you won't answer that question, I can't help you understand.
 
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