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Just heard on the Beeb -- GM's thrown in the towel on the Holden brand in Australia

mhardy6647

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Probably no surprise, but sad news nonetheless.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-51499775

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I was sad to hear as my buddy has a Chevy SS (Holden), and I was fascinated to find out Holden is over 150 years old. Partnered with GM since the 1930s. Many great cars over the years with some insane hp.
 

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Don't they do insane traffic tickets in Oz? Would make a big V8 kind of painful if you can't use it at all.
 

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Don't they do insane traffic tickets in Oz? Would make a big V8 kind of painful if you can't use it at all.

It's the main street exhaust note and attention the hoons go for.
 

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It's the main street exhaust note and attention the hoons go for.

Ah that's what you guys call them down there... here we just call them "Americans". :cool:
And yes, I resemble that remark... though I try to keep it under 2K RPM and with the valves closed if driving through neighborhoods... especially after dark. Other than that...
 

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Ah that's what you guys call them down there... here we just call them "Americans". :cool:
And yes, I resemble that remark... though I try to keep it under 2K RPM and with the valves closed if driving through neighborhoods... especially after dark. Other than that...

Now that's a car.

My son and his wife have a Nissan R35 Stagea manual station wagon, with 'the works' - a real Q car(rare in oz). The only give away for non-Nissan GTR tragics are those large exhaust pipes at the back - rather inconspicuous for on-street parking at their inner city/suburb location Nice to transport the greyhound 'kids' around and use the many mode FWD/AWD on trips to the ski-fields. :)

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Now that's a car.

My son and his wife have a Nissan R35 Stagea station wagon, with 'the works' - a real Q car(rare in oz). The only give away for non-Nissan GTR tragics are those large exhaust pipes at the back. Nice to transport the greyhound 'kids' around and use the many mode FWD/AWD on trips to the ski-fields.
Oh wow... that would one of my dream cars due to it's "stealth nature" (well and the insane rarity here). Unfortunately the difficulty in not only finding a decent one, but the hassles in importing one made me give up (for now at least). I love all forms of drag-wagon... there's just something special about them.
This one made me drool excessively (and was sold for a ridiculously low price as well):

On topic, it's sad but not too surprising... after GM dropped the Pontiac brand here, I figured there wasn't much time left for Holden either.
 

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Oh wow... that would one of my dream cars due to it's "stealth nature" (well and the insane rarity here). Unfortunately the difficulty in not only finding a decent one, but the hassles in importing one made me give up (for now at least). I love all forms of drag-wagon... there's just something special about them.
This one made me drool excessively (and was sold for a ridiculously low price as well):

On topic, it's sad but not too surprising... after GM dropped the Pontiac brand here, I figured there wasn't much time left for Holden either.

That is the one. There is a dealer here who imports impeccable used Japanese sports models and covers all the local certification red tape and sells at a fair price. I wish I was young again :) Ironically the Stagea insurance is much much less than a Skyline coupe equivalent. You may have to tolerate the occasional "is that a Volvo?" comment.
 

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I'd happily take a Toyota GR Yaris over any bloated toad of a Holden. A tiny, 2822lbs, AWD, 268HP, turbocharged, 1.6L 3-cylinder? Yaaas!

Holden is dead because they didn't make cars people really wanted.

Also, utes are hideous. I'd rather pull a trailer behind a Miata.
 

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I'd happily take a Toyota GR Yaris over any bloated toad of a Holden. A tiny, 2822lbs, AWD, 268HP, turbocharged, 1.6L 3-cylinder? Yaaas!

Holden is dead because they didn't make cars people really wanted.

Also, utes are hideous. I'd rather pull a trailer behind a Miata.

You,re right about Holden but wrong about Utes.

I once kept a LS3 Maloo R8 and what it lacks in looks, it makes up in poke. Super-fun car to drive and I assure you I never hauled anything in it.

I am for the first time in my life considering a Toyota, especially the GRMN. It will replace my current hot-hatch, a tuned Clio V6 which is great for that occasional hoon and putting bigger cars in their place. A few GTI owners have been given a unwelcome surprise in that car.

It needs to be no bigger than a shoe, low roof, float like a butterfly and minimum 250hp.
 
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