dougi
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Oh, 4a, 6a,8a.That is disappointing, not like they didn't have time to refine the design/build. I'm eyeing the A4A as a replacement for my RX-A660. BTW, what does the "+" signify ?
Oh, 4a, 6a,8a.That is disappointing, not like they didn't have time to refine the design/build. I'm eyeing the A4A as a replacement for my RX-A660. BTW, what does the "+" signify ?
Neo6 is a lower quality surround mode.I have noticed something strange since latest firmware update for these. I use a basic 5.1 system and generally prefer to leave it on NEO 6: music as a surround mode as a personal preference. However, for some dolby digital content (not DD True HD) (only some) it refuses to use it and insists on Dolby surround decoding.
From the Dolby metadata guide I can't seem to see that there is a flag which would allow content to force this, but could be wrong. I wonder what is going on?
I generally preferred the centre spread on NEO with content with music than Dolby. The other issue was that some services were producing content with DD but in 2.0 stereo. The AVR would not then let me use a surround mode to produce a centre! I had to end up changing to PCM in the source device to get around it.Neo6 is a lower quality surround mode.
It would not make sense for a true DD signal to be converted to a lower quality surround mode, as DD is a dedicated multi channel surround mode with higher sound quality.
Neo6 is a pseudo surround mode like pro logic, intended for 2 channel stuff mostly to CREATE a simulated surround mode when there is none.
I am not sure why you would want to downgrade the sound of a TRUE DD signal .......
Maybe Yamaha felt that its no longer feasible to keep the older legacy formats around anymore. I know they've stopped supporting a single surround back channel from the xx080 forward.I generally preferred the centre spread on NEO with content with music than Dolby. The other issue was that some services were producing content with DD but in 2.0 stereo. The AVR would not then let me use a surround mode to produce a centre! I had to end up changing to PCM in the source device to get around it.
Maybe Yamaha felt that its no longer feasible to keep the older legacy formats around anymore. I know they've stopped supporting a single surround back channel from the xx080 forward.
To be clear, it allows me to do it most of the time, but certain DD content seems to have a flag that prevented it. Some of it annoyingly being 20 DD content.Maybe Yamaha felt that its no longer feasible to keep the older legacy formats around anymore. I know they've stopped supporting a single surround back channel from the xx080 forward.
I've been eyeing this avr for some time and it is mostly out of stock, but good thing that I decided to check the reviews first. I might go with a Denon instead.
Sighted listening tests by owners are completely without value.Unless there is something specific you found to not like in a review, I would think quite hard about going by just "specs and measurements". I know that most all that have actually heard and compared tend to favor the yamaha for various reasons.
I feel the only real concern would be HDMI 2.1. Not sure if the straightened that out yet. All else should be great.I've been eyeing this avr for some time and it is mostly out of stock, but good thing that I decided to check the reviews first. I might go with a Denon instead.
Yes sighted listenings tests are one extreme and invaluable but so is the other extreme of judging how something sounds based on specifications alone. Most people who judge soley on specifications arent even aware what noise measurements are audible or the conditions in which they could become audible. That too is completely without value.Sighted listening tests by owners are completely without value.
They spent their money and in a huge majority of cases will praise their own decisions.
Why? If a unit returns excellent numbers you can be assured of excellent sound,Yes sighted listenings tests are one extreme and invaluable but so is the other extreme of judging how something sounds based on specifications alone.
Why? If a unit returns excellent numbers you can be assured of excellent sound,
And don't start with the "ear can hear things measurements don't reveal" BS, cause they can't.
You come back with conclusive proof of blind listening tests in which listsners reliably could pick out an amp with the higher SINAD and then we'll talk.You can definitely hear the difference in a 3db change in volume. And 75db SINAD vs 90db sinad is definitely in the audible range.
Sighted listening tests by owners are completely without value.
They spent their money and in a huge majority of cases will praise their own decisions.
Why? If a unit returns excellent numbers you can be assured of excellent sound,
And don't start with the "ear can hear things measurements don't reveal" BS, cause they can't.
He will not be able to answer this question, as he has not listened to it.Dont get your knickers in a knot!!! Are you telling me you can hear the distortion measured on the RX-A3080?
With no details, that comment is meaningless.You can definitely hear the difference in a 3db change in volume. And 75db SINAD vs 90db sinad is definitely in the audible range.