Thanks!Love the bar area.
Thanks!Love the bar area.
Mine is somewhere between the two of yours.
Here is my XMC-2 switching between Xfinity X1, ATV4K gen 2, Panasonic UB-820 Blu-ray, Roku Ultra with Samsung Q90T display output. CEC is disabled everywhere that it can be disabled. You can see when I press the input button as the XMC-2 immediately displays the newly selected HDMI input in the OSD. The switching time seems relatively constant but different for each input.
I am guessing that is the Q90t TV negotiating with the source. My understanding is that the AVR just passes through the video signal between the input and output channels. Is this true, would it be fair to not count that in the XMC-2 switching time? If so, the XMC-2 switching time is 4-5 seconds, but the time it takes the TV to lock on the video signal differs, Xfinity X1 being the fastest and blu-ray player the slowest, depending on whether it has to first wake up. In general, input switching works well, except for the wake out of standby. I believe there is a bug with the XMC-2 ignoring the change input command, as it always wakes up with the input set to the last used input.I don't see that spinning circle on my RMC-1, is that coming from the XMC-2?
- Rich
It would be interesting to see your video. I posted our XMC-2 switching inputs in this thread. The longest wait does seem to be what you are seeing (about 13-14 seconds total) to switch to our blu-ray player, but some (e.g. cable TV) switch really fast. If I understand what is happening, our XMC-2 accounts for about 4-5 seconds of the switching time; the TV takes the rest of the time negotiating and locking onto the video signal.No I used the heavy remote that comes with it. I even made a video of it. That is how I can know the time it takes. I sent Emotiva the video but got no reply. I actually listed the unit for sale and hope it does but not much interest so far. Lol.
I am running latest firmware….
man 3 to 4 seconds…… that’s sounds fast…
Even at 14 seconds, I wouldn’t mind if it was testing close to Trinnov and Storm! I thought I could be patient for such sound quality without paying tens of thousands $ more. For a quality that is less than Denon, I wouldn’t have gone for it.
I tried to upload but I can’t from my IPad. I will figure out a way.It would be interesting to see your video. I posted our XMC-2 switching inputs in this thread. The longest wait does seem to be what you are seeing (about 13-14 seconds total) to switch to our blu-ray player, but some (e.g. cable TV) switch really fast. If I understand what is happening, our XMC-2 accounts for about 4-5 seconds of the switching time; the TV takes the rest of the time negotiating and locking onto the video signal.
I am guessing that is the Q90t TV negotiating with the source. My understanding is that the AVR just passes through the video signal between the input and output channels. Is this true, would it be fair to not count that in the XMC-2 switching time? If so, the XMC-2 switching time is 4-5 seconds, but the time it takes the TV to lock on the video signal differs, Xfinity X1 being the fastest and blu-ray player the slowest, depending on whether it has to first wake up. In general, input switching works well, except for the wake out of standby. I believe there is a bug with the XMC-2 ignoring the change input command, as it always wakes up with the input set to the last used input.
Just to compare, I checked my Denon AVR-X3700H with the same sources. I agree that most do not switch sources over and over, however switching time contributes to the overall user experience. I also agree that stability is more important. I hold out hope for fixes.Switching times is notably slower on 2.3 than on previous firmware.
But almost never gets it wrong anymore. For video anyway..
I had better times and stability on previous firmwares.
I would guess 2-3 seconds just for the RMC-1 to react (updating the display).
This part has been greatly slowed down in 2.3 which feels laggy.
Then the actual switch is ok at about 3-4 seconds.. Video starts..
Then it makes the annoying double audio sync and audio kicks in at about
2-3 seconds. After this 1-2 seconds later it updates its display for the
audio format and mode.
So 8-12 seconds sounds about normal depending on source for a full switch.
So depending on how you measure ”full switch” Emotiva probably is about
2-5 seconds slower than the competition.
But switching times, while irritating if slow, is not the end of the world.
Most do not switch sources over and over.. The main thing is stability.
No problem. I did a direct comparison with my Denon and I can confirm the XMC-2 switching time is way longer. I can see how this would be frustrating for many users.I tried to upload but I can’t from my IPad. I will figure out a way.
I agree.. Speed and GUI (looks) is important for the overall experience.Just to compare, I checked my Denon AVR-X3700H with the same sources. I agree that most do not switch sources over and over, however switching time contributes to the overall user experience. I also agree that stability is more important. I hold out hope for fixes.
Denon AVR-X3700H input switching
Emotiva XMC-2 input switching
Those times seem to mimic what I am getting on my XMC-2. However my recent use of my backup receiver (denon X4000) while only 1080p capable only took about 2 seconds from button press to stable video and audio lock on.Switching times is notably slower on 2.3 than on previous firmware.
But almost never gets it wrong anymore. For video anyway..
I had better times and stability on previous firmwares.
I would guess 2-3 seconds just for the RMC-1 to react (updating the display).
This part has been greatly slowed down in 2.3 which feels laggy.
Then the actual switch is ok at about 3-4 seconds.. Video starts..
Then it makes the annoying double audio sync and audio kicks in at about
2-3 seconds. After this 1-2 seconds later it updates its display for the
audio format and mode.
So 8-12 seconds sounds about normal depending on source for a full switch.
So depending on how you measure ”full switch” Emotiva probably is about
2-5 seconds slower than the competition.
But switching times, while irritating if slow, is not the end of the world.
Most do not switch sources over and over.. The main thing is stability.
That AVR has "InstaPrevue function". I think it keeps all HDMI connections "active" i.e. there is no handshake etc. needed when a different HDMI source is selected.However my recent use of my backup receiver (denon X4000) while only 1080p capable only took about 2 seconds from button press to stable video and audio lock on.
Agree with you totally. It was also faster for me on previous firmware. The official site says it is faster but my experience is the opposite.Switching times is notably slower on 2.3 than on previous firmware.
But almost never gets it wrong anymore. For video anyway..
I wanted to click on the "Love" button but all I could find was the 'like' button. bum!My hope and dream is that one day manufacturers build such great products that they don't mind then showing measurements for them. Then I can retire for the second time in peace.
we need a “love” button then! I would push it too.I wanted to click on the "Love" button but all I could find was the 'like' button. bum!
14 seconds is 6 to 8 seconds longer than my XMC-2 takes.Hello Emotiva!
Have you seen the Anthem review and measurements? Time to wake up!
Looks like a real Surround sound processor can be measured at 0 dBfs! Lol, no -20 dBfs BS! No lies!
I wonder if the AVM90 would measure even better or just offer channels than the AVM70.
That seems to be the best option right now in that price range.
I hope I can sell my XMC-2 soon to get an Anthem….but I am not getting much interest… I wonder why? Lol
I can only imagine pressing the remote to change source and not having to wait 14 seconds…or live that situation again: pressing a button on the remote and then pressing again because I think I probably didn’t press good enough only to get my XMC-2 execute multiple commands 5 seconds later!
Congratulation Anthem for a good quality product that work as it should.
I think I proved earlier in the thread that it varies based on source and sink, it is way longer than competition.14 seconds is 6 to 8 seconds longer than my XMC-2 takes.