He said some very nice stuff about my (OneMic - the minimalist recording series) on YouTube so I'm not gonna say anything except he's a nice guy but not into measurements.What do you guys make of Steve?
He said some very nice stuff about my (OneMic - the minimalist recording series) on YouTube so I'm not gonna say anything except he's a nice guy but not into measurements.What do you guys make of Steve?
If you watch the two videos Steve did on this speaker, you can't make heads and tails out of what he is saying. It is one thing to say what you said: "the highs are very exaggerated but I like it that way." He either says nothing relevant for a while ("we have had B&Ws at Cnet for years"), or some random thing about how the speaker images, etc. which he could say and probably does for every speaker.Point being, liking different sounding speakers for their highs, mids, bass, etc isn't wrong but advertising it is true to sound recording or clean when it is just full of noise/distortion then it is an issue.
If you watch the two videos Steve did on this speaker, you can't make heads and tails out of what he is saying. It is one thing to say what you said: "the highs are very exaggerated but I like it that way." He either says nothing relevant for a while ("we have had B&Ws at Cnet for years"), or some random thing about how the speaker images, etc. which he could say and probably does for every speaker.
Ditto for manufacturer advertising.
For my part, I am clear about what the performance is objective and subjectively. You walk away knowing exactly what this speaker is about. Then you can clearly judge if it is for you or not.
I'm not sure why there's any distinction made between CD and streaming really. It's all just Digital. The fact that it's on a hard drive (somewhere) rather than on a silver disc in a plastic box really is meaningless.
How would you classify vintage audio electronics enthusiasts?
I was looking for old copies of High Fidelity yesterday. Starting back in 1970, it became my regular reading material. In large part this was due to their Beethoven discography, with me hunting down Harris Goldsmith's recommendations for Beethoven's Piano Sonatas:Well, the spirit of my prior comment is that I would not necessarily want to classify others for them.
That said, I would say that a vintage electronics enthusiast could be an audiophile, or not - I see the two things as compatible and overlapping, but one does not require the other.
So for example, @restorer-john is someone I would presume is an audiophile - though again, if he does not identify with that term, then I would never try to force it on him. I just mean that he's clearly a vintage audio enthusiast, and he clearly is into well-built, well-measuring, super-robust equipment - high fidelity performance, backed up by engineering and rigorously performed measurement is important to him, based on his posts here.
By contrast, there are plenty of folks at places like, for example, AudioKarma (a great site!) who are also vintage gear enthusiasts, and who of course really love music and listening with hi-fi gear; but from what I can tell some of them are not folks I would call audiophiles (though again, if they self-identify that way, I would not try to say they're wrong). They focus a lot on the appearance of the gear, and they are very attached to supposed sonic profiles of certain brands versus others, which sonic profiles are likely not supported by measurement or else the result of poor measured performance in some area.
Regardless, even those folks are very much interested in the technology and to some degree in the electronic and electrical nuts and bolts of that vintage equipment - which is Amir's point: The percentage of audiophiles who actually practice what subjectivism preaches is very, very low IMHO.
I have heard him say that he refuses to review certain products. Basically if the product sucks, he does not publish a review for itWhat do you guys make of Steve?
I could be wrong. Didn't he once say in one of his videos, that measurements are meaningless?
I don't know about you lot. But I've noticed on every video review Steve always likes and praises the product. Hardly ever seen a negative review come out of him.
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Not a bad way to handle the headless panther it you are making a living and rely on companies to send you stuff. Both unlike Amir.I have heard him say that he refuses to review certain products. Basically if the product sucks, he does not publish a review for it
I am explaining to you the two distinct type of customers for high-end audio. There is nothing being "read in." You have customers who research luxury products and those that just buy. The latter have utility for the product, not it being a hobby in itself.
And Im explaining to you that this is the new definition. The old one says nothing about audio hardware as a hobby. Dont know when it changed but I think I know why. This new definition is exactly what the audio rags and snake oil salesmen want. The constant search for "better" hardware, wallets open, right down the rabbit hole.
For those who do care about the specs, I think even Steve would agree, his videos would not be the ones to watch. In short, no harm, no foul, let Steve be Steve.
Anyone who has met Steve Guttenberg or watched his videos should be able to gauge he is an all around down to earth nice guy.
It should be obvious to most, he is not about the science aspect of audio, rather what sounds good to him. He doesn't concern himself with the specs, he is honest by stating just because he likes the sound of something, you may or may not. It's easy to forget, he is a salesman at heart.
I don't think he is trying to intentionally mislead anyone. I may not personally agree with his opinion on a lot of products, rather i just try to understand this is how he is making a side living from doing these videos. His job is to find something positive and not be to harsh on the negatives.
We should look at his videos more as an entertainment value.
..if an audiophile is someone interested in high fidelity sound reproduction, then by definition that means they're interested in the playback (reproduction) of sound that is as close as possible (highest fidelity) to the original recording. To the extent a self-identified audiophile equates fidelity with such things as "the violin on this particular recording sounds like a real violin to me" (regardless of whether or not the recording actually captured the particular sound the person is hearing), or "this speaker brand is voiced for musicality rather than measurements," then that person is not, in fact, an audiophile by the dictionary definition.
??? ASR as a website has gone past many sites like stereophile:I'm also pretty sure Steve does some objective assessments also - except that he just doesn't talk about it on his channel - which by the way, I suspect is really because youtube algorithms tell him he'll get many more views doing that than Amir, which very few professional youtubers admit.