AudioQuest Wind High-end Cable Review

[Blumlein 88]

https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...ifference-a-null-test-result.7738/post-183058

Here is where I used Deltawave and music comparing AQ Hyperlitz Diamond (teflon, functionally perfect silver, yada yada) and some RGB cable. The RGB cable was 10 feet (basically RG6) and the Diamond was 1 meter.

You are not hearing a difference with these.

 

[Lancruiser]

Certainly. Apologies, I clicked on the reference to kickstarter.

Hi StefaanE, No worries here pal, apology accepted. I hope you find Mr. Waldrep's site as informative as I have, as an audio community we certainly need more sites like ASR Review, RealHD Audio etc as relatively objective reference information points. I understand folks need to educate their chillens, put food on the table, etc. But please don't sell things that do nothing but cast doubt on the audio industry, it hurts us all as music lovers who want quality domestic reproduction of musical recordings. End of the day, it's not rocket science. The FTC standardized amplifier rating's decades ago, perhaps they might look into these "ancient alien" claims if enough of us request it.

 

[Canuck57]

https://www.canuckaudiomart.com/det...-frontrow-hp-6ft-power-cord-perfect-like-new/

 

[AudioSceptic]

I was trying to inform other interested, like minded readers of this forum of a website that takes a no bs approach to audio. You are mistaking promotional with informative.

I've been reading his stuff for years. Are you aware of another like-minded blogger, Archimago <https://archimago.blogspot.com>? Lots of stuff there exposing audiophool nonsense, as well as useful how-tos.

 

[Lancruiser]

https://www.canuckaudiomart.com/det...-frontrow-hp-6ft-power-cord-perfect-like-new/

Holy Smokes!! that person spent ~ $10k for ONE AC power cable and is selling it at a 50% loss. I could travel half the world modestly for that price AND would have a much better time!! I had no idea folks were willing to pay those prices, a good thing he did not wire his whole house with that "solution".

 

[Lancruiser]

I've been reading his stuff for years. Are you aware of another like-minded blogger, Archimago <https://archimago.blogspot.com>? Lots of stuff there exposing audiophool nonsense, as well as useful how-tos.

I am a frequent visitor to that site, I should have mentioned it. Thank you for reminding an old man. One more site that I would like to list; The Audio Critic, Mr. Aczel has since passed away but the laws of Physics have not changed, sadly the mainstream audio industry has followed suit. A free read and quite informative. The hyper is; http://www.biline.ca/audio_critic/audio_critic.htm

 

[wwenze]

Holy Smokes!! that person spent ~ $10k for ONE AC power cable and is selling it at a 50% loss. I could travel half the world modestly for that price AND would have a much better time!! I had no idea folks were willing to pay those prices, a good thing he did not wire his whole house with that "solution".

Better than keeping it and suffering 99.9% loss

Remaining 0.1% is $1 for the cable, $1 for the logistics and $8 for looking good.

 

[Killingbeans]

Holy Smokes!! that person spent ~ $10k for ONE AC power cable and is selling it at a 50% loss.

That's nothing. If you give this guy $200.000 he'll give you a power cable surrounded by magical aquarium pebbles: I kid you not...

EDIT: Probably meant as a joke.

 

[restorer-john]

What amazes me is that in this day and age, after decades of debunking and discussion the world over, people still want to believe and continue to fall for this b#llsh#t. It's almost like the human race is devolving in many ways.

 

[RayDunzl]

It's almost like the human race is devolving in many ways.

Almost?

 

[restorer-john]

That's nothing. If you give this guy $200.000 he'll give you a power cable surrounded by magical aquarium pebbles: I kid you not...

Surely. Tell me that site is just a parody.

 

[Helicopter]

So it turned out the cheap cable was actually a somewhat coveted cable and now I'm wondering what the measurable difference between it or something like these $20 "world's best cables" and an actual dollar store cable like I think most of us were imagining is.

This one seems to have its own printing scheme, but sometimes the cable manufacturer puts directional arrows on before it is terminated so that you can look at the wire mid-run and see which way it is going. Even if the only things directional on the wire are the signal and the printing, this can still be beneficial, and it is not necessarily misleading. One might use the same cable to build RCAs and XLRs, which are directional, and there, with proper assembly, the printing on the wire can also be useful. I don't see what the big deal is provided you are not out espousing the directiomality of an RCA cable will improve the quality of the signal.

 

[restorer-john]

Almost?

I was trying to be nice and not upset the "woke" element.

 

[andreasmaaan]

That's nothing. If you give this guy $200.000 he'll give you a power cable surrounded by magical aquarium pebbles: I kid you not...

I’m pretty sure (not 100% though) that this is an epic troll of the high end audio industry... If it’s the same guy I’m thinking of who had some of the weirdest/funniest mod videos, back around a decade ago...can’t recall which forum it was on...

 

[restorer-john]

I don't see what the big deal is provided you are not out espousing the directiomality of an RCA cable will improve the quality of the signal.

Periodically, an audiophile seeking the best from his interconnects should reverse the direction of signal flow and use our patented re-energizer to correctly re-align the dielectric and rejuvinate the critical inner core. This will ensure a long life and maximum enjoyment.

 

[Killingbeans]

I’m pretty sure (not 100% though) that this is an epic troll of the high end audio industry... If it’s the same guy I’m thinking of who had some of the weirdest/funniest mod videos, back around a decade ago...can’t recall which forum it was on...

Would make a lot more sense. Pretty telling that it had me fooled though

 

[Helicopter]

Periodically, an audiophile seeking the best from his interconnects should reverse the direction of signal flow and use our patented re-energizer to correctly re-align the dielectric and rejuvinate the critical inner core. This will ensure a long life and maximum enjoyment.

You mean after 500 hour burn in, in each direction?

 

[MakeMineVinyl]

It's almost like the human race is devolving in many ways.

I think that train left the station long ago.

 

[gvl]

Is there a single Audioquest product that is both a) not overpriced and b) not snake oil or mediocre at best?

 

[laurelkurt]

This is a review and detailed measurements of the AudioQuest Wind RCA "PSS Silver" cable. The sample I have was kindly donated by a member and costs US $2,300 in the 1 meter configuration. No, that is not a typo. It is over two thousand dollars for a pair.

The cable comes in a rather cheap carrying case. What is that about? Are you going to carry this to your friend's house to show off? Or store the cable in it until the right romantic moment to pop it out to use with your system?

The cable itself has the look of "high-end" cables:

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As you see it also has their "DBS" (Dielectric Bias System) which puts a static DC voltage along one wire in the cable. I have tested the DBS to have no effect in my previous Audioquest Victoria Cable review. I will take another shot at it here in a different way.

Usually these cables have a death grip on the RCA connectors but not these. They would hold on but softly and no more than any generic cable. Given their heavy weight though, I wish there was more holding power. You can see part of the reason for this is the super thin outer RCA ring:

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Back to the weight, the inclusion of the DBS battery pack makes these cantilever even more. Be sure to have super sturdy RCA connectors on your gear before you use these. Or else, invest extra in cable lifters because you physically need them here.

AudioQuest Wind Audio Measurements
These cables can go three different ways: do nothing, do something good, or make things worse. Let's start with our usual dashboard to see if we can get quick indication of any of these options. But first, let's test our setup with a generic 1 meter cable I got for free in a DVD player I think some 20 years ago. It is a single cable (i.e. not stereo pair) like the Wind:

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Bless my $28,000 Audio Precision APx555 for generating such a clean signal and ability to measure it just the same. Combined noise and distortion are below -121 dB at 2 volts output. The spectrum of distortion and noise goes down to whopping -160 dB courtesy of signal processing (FFT process gain). The only thing visible at this low level is mains AC leakage to the tune of -145 dB.

Now let's switch to Audioquest Wind with the same setup:

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Overall numbers remain the same but I see that the mains leakage has gone up 7 to 8 dB. And now we see its third harmonic at 180 Hz as well which we did not see before. Put a pin in this for now and we will come back to it.

To go after testing impact of DBS, I thought I reverse the cable. Whatever it is about, should get totally screwed up since the battery is supposed to be at one end of the cable:

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Not a thing changes. We are going to depth of noise and distortion analysis that is so many orders of magnitude lower than our hearing that it is not funny. Yet there is no effect whatsoever. Clearly the DBS circuit is doing nothing here as the "designers" say it does.

One of the most audible thing in audio is frequency response. You don't need golden ears to hear differences when frequency response changes. Often give a free pass to people using such cables and hearing differences that there must have been filters in them that changed the frequency response. So let's measure that with super high precision and high bandwidth:

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I usually run this test with ± 5 dB vertical axis. Here, I have gone to ±1 dB and there is still no difference between no cable, 1 meter generic cable and Audioquest Wind. Bandwidth of the test is also expanded to 200 kHz and yet there is still no difference.

Now let's measure the noise that exists in the system with the cable hooked up but nothing driving it:
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We see that the AudioQuest Wind (red) clearly has higher mains noise. So I thought of a way to test susceptibility to mains noise by taking an AC transformer (from a desktop DAC), plugging it in and then holding it next to the cable. Note that there is no electrical connection between the transformer and the cable. The transformer is simply being held by the cable to allow coupling into the cable. This is what happened:

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Wow! The generic cable in blue picked up a bit more noise but look at the AudioQuest Wind in solid red. It is picking up huge amount of mains noise relative to our generic cable! Stunning how high-end cables are sold with the impression that they reduce noise and such and yet this cable is clearly much more susceptible to interference than free cable.

What is amazing about this is a bullet in the product feature list from AudioQuest:

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It is easy to accomplish 100% shield coverage? So why do we not have it here? And what noise dissipation?

AudioQuest Wind Cable Listening Test
I hooked up my RME ADI-2 FS DAC V2 to a Topping A90 high-performance headphone amplifier alternatively using the Audioquest Wind and Generic able. The output of the A90 drove my Ether CX headphone. I could not detect a difference between the two in this limited testing. Mind you, there was more air when listening to the Wind. But then my wife who was in the kitchen informed me that the dogs had left the patio door open and whether I was OK if she closed it. Once she did, the air factor disappeared.

Conclusions
You know, it is one thing to sell a cable for a lot more money that does nothing extra. It is entirely another matter when the cable actually screws up the signal much worse than a free cable as the AudioQuest Wind seems to be doing here. Whether it is the outer RCA connector that is not gripping properly, the construction of the cable, or both, clearly the basic job of doing no harm is not followed. A bit of measuring like I did would have shown problems like this to them. But of course they did not bother. They imagined a bunch of problems, created imagined solutions to them, and started to sell the product with unverified claims as I quoted.

So please folks, I don't care which audio camp you are in. Ask manufacturers to demonstrate what the benefits they advertise. They say they lower noise? Ask them to show before and after measurements. We know how to measure noise. If we don't, how do they know they reduced noise at all?

Anyway, of course I cannot recommend the AudioQuest Wind cable in any form or fashion.

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