Trailer for Denis Villeneuve's Dune

[Jimbob54]

For those interested in Sci-Fi book series I highly recommend Lois McMaster-Bujold’s Vorkosigan Saga. I’d love to see it made into a limited series.

Then there is the greatest of all time, Isaac Asimov’s Foundation Series. Looks like AppleTV is taking it on. (I may need to subscribe to yet another streaming service.)

Martin

Been a while since I read Foundation- IIRC the first couple of books were good- after that it just became people zipping around space like some kind of bad Da Vinci Code sci fi

 

[raistlin65]

Anyone else notice how the bulk of the lyrics to Eclipse fit Paul as the Kwisatz Haderach.?This was one of my main complaints with Lynch's version. That it didn't convey what Paul was becoming, other than he had some kind of supernormal power


All that you touch
And all that you see
All that you taste
All you feel
And all that you love
And all that you hate
All you distrust
All you save
And all that you give
And all that you deal
And all that you buy
Beg, borrow or steal
And all you create
And all you destroy
And all that you do
And all that you say
And all that you eat
And everyone you meet (everyone you meet)
And all that you slight
And everyone you fight
And all that is now
And all that is gone
And all that's to come

 

[Jimbob54]

Anyone else notice how the bulk of the lyrics to Eclipse fit Paul as the Kwisatz Haderach.?This was one of my main complaints with Lynch's version. That it didn't convey what Paul was becoming, other than he had some kind of supernormal power


All that you touch
And all that you see
All that you taste
All you feel
And all that you love
And all that you hate
All you distrust
All you save
And all that you give
And all that you deal
And all that you buy
Beg, borrow or steal
And all you create
And all you destroy
And all that you do
And all that you say
And all that you eat
And everyone you meet (everyone you meet)
And all that you slight
And everyone you fight
And all that is now
And all that is gone
And all that's to come

Yes, that was one of the story bits of story change I didnt like - didnt elaborate what the KH was or why the Guild and Sisterhood needed him not to be .

That , and the addition of the voice weapons as a proxy for part of his talents

 

[raistlin65]

Yes, that was one of the story bits of story change I didnt like - didnt elaborate what the KH was or why the Guild and Sisterhood needed him not to be .

That , and the addition of the voice weapons as a proxy for part of his talents

And that was so important to understanding Paul's "becoming," for lack of a better word. And was so important to understanding his struggle as a character and the choices he had to make.

Dune is not about Dune, which is something that Lynch didn't seem to get. It's about Paul. This is also how it differs so greatly from GoT, which really was focused on many different characters. If that's what people are hoping for, look to Amazon's Wheel of Time production for that (which I am also looking forward to).

So I have high hopes for Villeneuve's version, given the choice of that theme song and the focus he puts on characters, such as with Arrival and Sicario.

I want Paul's story. I don't want a sci-fi, special effects extravaganza about Dune. I don't want another Ender's Game movie that doesn't achieve character focus.

 

[Jimbob54]

And that was so important to understanding Paul's "becoming," for lack of a better word. And was so important to understanding his struggle as a character and the choices he had to make.

Dune is not about Dune, which is something that Lynch didn't seem to get. It's about Paul. This is also how it differs so greatly from GoT, which really was focused on many different characters. If that's what people are hoping for, look to Amazon's Wheel of Time production for that (which I am also looking forward to).

So I have high hopes for Villeneuve's version, given the choice of that theme song and the focus he puts on characters, such as with Arrival and Sicario.

I want Paul's story. I don't want a sci-fi, special effects extravaganza about Dune. I don't want another Ender's Game movie that doesn't achieve character focus.

I suspect lynch got it. I also suspect he either realised he couldn't make or wasn't allowed to make that story

. In all honesty, Dune as a standalone story doesn't make sense from a narrative perspective until the universe expands in the sequels, and you can't expect the audience to come armed with knowledge or cram all the mythology into a 2 hour or less single film. That includes worms and battles.

 

[q3cpma]

I suspect lynch got it. I also suspect he either realised he couldn't make or wasn't allowed to make that story

. In all honesty, Dune as a standalone story doesn't make sense from a narrative perspective until the universe expands in the sequels, and you can't expect the audience to come armed with knowledge or cram all the mythology into a 2 hour or less single film. That includes worms and battles.

I think you're right, the level and amount of introspection found in Dune can't really translate well from book to movie.

 

[A Surfer]

I assume this (not one Ive heard of but might try) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chronicles_of_Thomas_Covenant

Yes, worth a read. I haven't read it since I was a teenager in the 1980s, but back then I really enjoyed it along with Dune and the LOTR trilogy. It was so different than any other series I had read as it really did create a hard to like main character.

 

[Jimbob54]

Yes, worth a read. I haven't read it since I was a teenager in the 1980s, but back then I really enjoyed it along with Dune and the LOTR trilogy. It was so different than any other series I had read as it really did create a hard to like main character.

Bought book 1 on kindle earlier . We shall see !

 

[Chrispy]

Another series of books I'd like to see a mini-series/movie for would be Zelazny's Amber Chronicles. Looking forward to the new Dune, have liked Villeneuve's work so far. Dang Netflix doesn't have the Dune mini-series, haven't seen that....

 

[danadam]

Amazon's Wheel of Time production

Oh, good to know, thanks!

 

[North_Sky]

This epic film will be split into two films (episodes) ...
• https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-...lit-two-movies-denis-villeneuve-a9465736.html

Directed by
Denis Villeneuve

Writing Credits
Frank Herbert...(novel) &
Jon Spaihts...(screenplay by) and
Denis Villeneuve...(screenplay by) and
Eric Roth...(screenplay by)

Cast
Zendaya...Chani
Rebecca Ferguson...Lady Jessica
Timothée Chalamet...Paul Atreides
Jason Momoa...Duncan Idaho
Dave Bautista...Glossu 'Beast' Rabban
David Dastmalchian...Piter De Vries
Josh Brolin...Gurney Halleck
Oscar Isaac...Duke Leto Atreides
Stellan Skarsgård...Baron Vladimir Harkonnen
Javier Bardem...Stilgar
Charlotte Rampling...Gaius Helen Mohiam
Stephen McKinley Henderson...Thufir Hawat
Sharon Duncan-Brewster...Liet-Kynes
Chen Chang...Dr. Wellington Yueh
Babs Olusanmokun...Jamis
Michael Nardone...Gurney Sergeant
Charlie Rawes...First Trooper
Gloria Obianyo...Harah
Richard Carter...Second Trooper
Stephen Collins...Deaf Trooper
Oliver Ryan...Hawat Specialist
Károly Baksai...Atreides Soldier (uncredited)
Paul Bullion...Sardaukar Soldier (uncredited)
Ben Dilloway...Sardaukar Assassin (uncredited)
Björn Freiberg...Leto Officer (uncredited)
Balázs Megyeri...Sardaukar Soldier (uncredited)
Ferenc Iván Szabó...Leto Officer (uncredited)
Peter Sztojanov Jr....Sardaukar Soldier (uncredited)
István Áldott...Sardaukar Soldier (uncredited)
_____

☆ First part: December 18 (theaters)*

* If COVID-19 contributions and safe measures allowing ...

 

[raistlin65]

Oh, good to know, thanks!

I know, isn't that great? There's at least 10 seasons out of fantasy out of those books.

 

[Chrispy]

Yes, worth a read. I haven't read it since I was a teenager in the 1980s, but back then I really enjoyed it along with Dune and the LOTR trilogy. It was so different than any other series I had read as it really did create a hard to like main character.

Just started to reread the series the other day.

 

[North_Sky]

Dune (1984) by David Lynch; me I like, very.
That's me, ...me in the corner ...

 

[Feanor]

Another series of books I'd like to see a mini-series/movie for would be Zelazny's Amber Chronicles. Looking forward to the new Dune, have liked Villeneuve's work so far. Dang Netflix doesn't have the Dune mini-series, haven't seen that....

Speaking of Zelazny, I've only read Lord of Light and Creatures of Light and Darkness which I enjoyed.

The Sci-fi classic I'd most like to see made into a movies, (probably movies), it Gene Wolfe's tetralogy, Book of the New Sun. For me simply the best book of the genre I have ever read. ... Mind you, it would be all to easy to make that into an overblown fuck-up as Peter Jackson did the LoTR, and that's not even to mention The Hobbit.

 

[North_Sky]

You don't like the LOTR and Hobbit flicks? ...Nosferatu, Metropolis?

 

[watchnerd]

I like that Paul is appropriately younger, a teen, as he was in the books, as opposed to being portrayed as a mid 20-something.

I guess Jason Mamoa is Duncan Idaho?

Who is playing Gurney Halleck?

 

[Chrispy]

Speaking of Zelazny, I've only read Lord of Light and Creatures of Light and Darkness which I enjoyed.

The Sci-fi classic I'd most like to see made into a movies, (probably movies), it Gene Wolfe's tetralogy, Book of the New Sun. For me simply the best book of the genre I have ever read. ... Mind you, it would be all to easy to make that into an overblown fuck-up as Peter Jackson did the LoTR, and that's not even to mention The Hobbit.

I enjoyed those Zelazny books, too but can't think of anything of his that I haven't liked. I'll have to check out the Wolfe out, not run into that before.

Larry Niven's Ringworld set would be another good one......

 

[A Surfer]

Bought book 1 on kindle earlier . We shall see !

Be interested to hear what you think.

 

[A Surfer]

Just started to reread the series the other day.

Nice, let us know how it reads years later.