To each their own, but I've stumbled upon that wreck of a channel before, and it's not something worth revisiting; imvho of course. If a musical instrument fell on that "reviewer", he wouldn't know what it sounded like when it hit him, and reverbated within the room.
Edit: Timbre kinda escapes the grasp of those who listen to electronica, full time.
Thank you for the review.
I really have enjoyed mine, and nice to see a solid review. Mine are in the kitchen...bamboo is one of the finishes.
View attachment 67196
I see no reason to agree with you. Passive powered speakers in this class are a great consumer product. Tons of folks want an all in one set-up with no need for amps and such."Less bad than expected", I guess. Passive speakers with builtin amplifiers are dumb, though.
Hmm. I am listening to a pair of 305P ii right now as I type. I can hear exactly no hiss.
I don't hear any hiss on my 308Ps.
No need for a proprietary cable that would be required to run a slave if the system was active, you can just use one run of regular speaker wire.
As long as the drivers are well selected and cabin the well designed you don’t really have to have a huge crossover which wastes lot of power. Also, don’t have to have two different amps cramped into a small shell. But yesEven the lowest level Genelecs have an active crossover even though it's analog, I believe.
remember r100 measurments?Not really competitors, indeed. I'd like to see some measurements of the Fluid Audio FX50 (with a DSP based crossover!) and Tannoy Gold 5, as I think coaxial is an extra nice feature for computer speakers that are often used too near.
Another brand which comes to my mind like this is audiopro which also sounded quite neutral to me, but now I am curious how they measure. The good thing about them is a slimmer profile, which is more useful on a desk.Thanks for the review, Amir. I bought my Audioengine speakers before long before your review but it is nice to get more info about them.
I bought a pair of Audioengine A5 speakers in 2007 and used them for near field desktop audio for 10 years. I thoroughly listing to music and for audio with videos. The woofer surrounds didn't turn white, the tweeters didn't get very dusty but after I gave the speakers to my wife, the electronics stopped working. (Couldn't stand to have a woman controlling them I guess. )
I now use Audioengine HD6 speakers for desktop audio. I measured in-room response and applied two DSP filters in the JRiver player s/w. I'm listening 18" from the speakers at 75-85 dB max. The amps and the speakers' drivers have plenty of headroom to handle the boosts required by the DSP filters I set. I'm quite happy with the sound. The volume control on the front of the master speaker controls volume from both speakers and there is a single on-off switch controlling both speakers. Having 2 analog inputs is often handy as well. No hiss either.
I use another pair of HD6 speakers for TV sound in our living room with Toslink input to the speakers. I sit about 7' from the speakers and listen at 75-80 dB max. The remote control for the speakers lets me control volume and mute the speakers when needed.
Sometimes we listen to music in the dining room with sound from the HD6 speakers in the living room. The HD6s are a bit marginal at that distance.
I used active monitors in my main system for almost 20 years before replacing them with active studio monitors. I used Audioengine speakers for desktop audio (powered but not active) for the last ~14 years. I didn't find them lacking for near field use during those years.
Audioengine sells direct. They do sometimes have sales. They have had 20% off sales during the black Friday-cyber Monday period in recent years.
Hmm. I am listening to a pair of 305P ii right now as I type. I can hear exactly no hiss.
I had the LSR308 and the 306p MARK II. Both had hiss. Very noticeable, I could hear it across the room if it was quiet. I would have never been able to use these near-field. I did appreciate very, very much their sound quality vs price. Would still recommend them for most folks as long as I tell them about potential hiss issues.
I don't have either set anymore or I would measure the frequency of the hiss. Maybe it was out of your hearing range or maybe you got lucky. Nearly everyone I have ever talked to or heard from about any of the 3 series JBL's had some amount of hiss.
You could potentially lower that crossover point distorsion with steeper slopes, though. And active crossovers are actually cheaper than decent passive ones, letting you invest in more important stuff. But it's indeed not very practical if you want a master/slave pair (which you wouldn't, as one breaking means you have to buy both again).As long as the drivers are well selected and cabin the well designed you don’t really have to have a huge crossover which wastes lot of power. Also, don’t have to have two different amps cramped into a small shell. But yes
No. Where can you find these? Anyway, we don't have measurements from the models I mentionned, so I wouldn't try to guess them. The FX50 even has an on-axis graph from the manufacturer that's quite flat.remember r100 measurments?
Ciao Mimi. Sicuro (will do).Ciao Amirm, sono un nuovo iscritto, grazie per il tuo lavoro, possiedo una coppia di concertino Sonus Faber, sono a conoscenza che anche tu le possiedi, ti prego di recensirle, quando hai un po' di tempo,sono curioso del risultato. Scusami se ti scrivo in italiano ma non conosco l'inglese. Ti saluto e ti auguro il meglio.
My bad I meant q100. Yes you have a point on true active speakers with multiple amps. Their produce most performance without wasting energy. I agree to that. I was wrong about my previous statement after I gave thought to it again.You could potentially lower that crossover point distorsion with steeper slopes, though. And active crossovers are actually cheaper than decent passive ones, letting you invest in more important stuff. But it's indeed not very practical if you want a master/slave pair (which you wouldn't, as one breaking means you have to buy both again).
No. Where can you find these? Anyway, we don't have measurements from the models I mentionned, so I wouldn't try to guess them. The FX50 even has an on-axis graph from the manufacturer that's quite flat.
Hmm? Is all that Hum drowning out the hiss?