Personally, I would like to see an official response from Topping about this matter.
I would take a "tweet" as an official response. Anything...
I would take a "tweet" as an official response. Anything...
Mr. Huang is the right person from Topping so I would believe what he says.Of course, like the authenticity of this AD10, I cannot verify the legitimacy of the supposed individual from Topping making the response posted.
Maybe I'm not the one that should bother with this thing. Go ahead and contact Mr.Huang.Mr. Huang is the right person from Topping so I would believe what he says.
Guts look similar but not identical. The area on the left side of the DAC chip for example.Even the guts look similar:
Top: Aimpire AD10 (courtesy Reddit user andrewrp)
Bottom: Topping D10 (courtesy Amir)
Some chips in the AD10 are unlabeled -- maybe generic parts that make all the difference?
Edit: Looks like RayDunzl made this comparison in another thread several weeks ago:
That guy who own AIMPIRE brand is one of our seller before, but few months ago we terminated the cooperation with them and allowed them to sell their stock until it was cleared, because he did a lot of unfair competition. Here can explain why they are still selling some TOPPING products.
They are very familiar with Amazon rules, they also have a lot of brands and accounts, even accounts with very high authority. Therefore, after ending the cooperation, he changed the listing to his own brand, and then started selling clone D10 by his own account and also provide to amazon. Because this product not showing our brand, we are not able to protect this, all we can do is warn our users not mistakenly buying this.
I believe, we probably see AD30, AMX3, or even more later. This is not the first time our product has been cloned by others, I believe it is not the last time.
Another thing I need to say is, @JohnYang1997 is really did intern in our company before. He said is correct, the PCB factory does not easily disclose the customer's engineering files, but copying it does not require engineering files.
Pretty sad story, but it does all make sense. One can only wonder why it is so hard to protect your property @ Amazon online stores...
Hopefully, it will be resolved :/
Pretty sad story, but it does all make sense. One can only wonder why it is so hard to protect your property @ Amazon online stores...
Hopefully, it will be resolved :/
One last insight before official response from Mr. Huang.
In China you can literally pay someone less than 20 dollars and get a board reverse engineered with Full BOM and PCB Project file.
Some truth that are confirmed without any doubt so far:
Aimpiere was an authorized reseller for Topping.
Aimpiere is unauthorized now.
Topping has not been supplied items since.
Aimpiere AD10 has zero to do with Topping or any related manufacturers in the manufacturing process(including PCB, component assembly, chassis customizing).
Aimpiere AD10 is Fake and Counterfeit.
USB and XMOS programs are pulled from the original board.
I think it's a sign of highly developed economy, Chinese faking their own domestic brands/products....
Thanks for taking the time to explain this unfortunate story.Sorry every one, I'm late. I‘m sure to tell everyone here: AIMPIRE AD10 is a clone product.
We did not provide permission, did not provide technical support, and did not provide production. If we provide OEM to AIMPIRE or we are preparing a secondary brand, at least we will use the same glass lens to because it will not save much money to use cheaper one; and we will not mistakenly display D10 on connection of AD10; Of course we will not allow the products to be so similar; cutting performance is even more outrageous because customers will not agree.
This is indeed a sad thing.
That guy who own AIMPIRE brand is one of our seller before, but few months ago we terminated the cooperation with them and allowed them to sell their stock until it was cleared, because he did a lot of unfair competition. Here can explain why they are still selling some TOPPING products.
They are very familiar with Amazon rules, they also have a lot of brands and accounts, even accounts with very high authority. Therefore, after ending the cooperation, he changed the listing to his own brand, and then started selling clone D10 by his own account and also provide to amazon. Because this product not showing our brand, we are not able to protect this, all we can do is warn our users not mistakenly buying this.
I believe, we probably see AD30, AMX3, or even more later. This is not the first time our product has been cloned by others, I believe it is not the last time.
Another thing I need to say is, @JohnYang1997 is really did intern in our company before. He said is correct, the PCB factory does not easily disclose the customer's engineering files, but copying it does not require engineering files.
Judge away. I just don't think there's much to be gained as to speculating on their intent. I think it's sufficient to assume their motive: they want to sell stuff.Trusting a company who falsely advertises a product from a different brand, is a strong reason to "speculate or investigate". Evidence is a form of fact, and the evidence presented by this review should be enough for most folks to determine, or judge, if this product is murdering the Topping name, and our sound systems.
The second part of the equation is Topping's very own disassociation from Aimpire.
What's not to judge?