What you need to know about the virus in China "2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV)"

[g29]

"During November 2002 through July 2003, a total of 8,098 people worldwide became sick with severe acute respiratory syndrome that was accompanied by either pneumonia or respiratory distress syndrome (probable cases), according to the World Health Organization (WHO)."
https://www.cdc.gov/sars/about/faq.html

So the number of people who died from the flu or complications of it in 2017/2018 in the US was an order of magnitude greater than the number of people who contracted SARS during the last outbreak.

Keep your eye on the ball

But how many were killed from the regular flu (including people already compromised by other illnesses) ???

... An analysis led by Chinese scientists published in The Lancet Public Health in September 2019 found that there were 84,200 to 92,000 flu-related deaths in China each year ...

Your analogy is like comparing Ebola to heart disease. Heart disease is ubiquitous and omnipresent, Ebola isn't. The regular flu is ubiquitous and omnipresent, ...

 

[raistlin65]

Your analogy is like comparing Ebola to heart disease. Heart disease is ubiquitous and omnipresent, Ebola isn't. The regular flu is ubiquitous and omnipresent, ...

Now you got it. People don't have their eye on the ball. What fear and anxiety people have about the coronavirus is misdirected. Americans and the American media will pay undue attention to the coronavirus because it's scary, because it's different an unknown, and do little to improve on the massive number of people killed by influenza. The fact that there is a strain A and strain B flu virus going around this year at the same time is significantly more of a threat.

 

[g29]

Now you got it. People don't have their eye on the ball. What fear and anxiety people have about the coronavirus is misdirected. Americans and the American media will pay undue attention to the coronavirus because it's scary, because it's different an unknown, and do little to improve on the massive number of people killed by influenza. The fact that there is a strain A and strain B flu virus going around this year at the same time is significantly more of a threat.

I am well aware of that. What they also don't focus on is intentionally kept quiet.

A recent Johns Hopkins study claims more than 250,000 people in the U.S. die every year from medical errors. Other reports claim the numbers to be as high as 440,000. Medical errors are the third-leading cause of death after heart disease and cancer.

 

[andymok]

Bees usually don’t kill. People die because of allergy and complications induced.

Scorpion sting from certain species is different however. You don’t often come in contact with them, but when you do, they could kill. Not to mention if they reproduce like rats.

Same for Flu. Flu targets those have a weaker immune system, eg children and the elderly. Flu doesn’t kill usually, people die because of complications induced. All in all, it is preventable to healthy body by taking vaccines.

SARS, MERS, and this is different in that they could be transmitted in both ways, between animals and human. They spread fast, and they could kill. And nothing makes you immune from it for now except good hygiene practice.

 

[mi-fu]

It seems that the situation in China is much much worse than most people think.

 

[flowjm]

The fact that China is taking some pretty extreme measures to try to contain a virus that is "no worse than the 'flu" is what concerns me, not whatever the media is saying.

 

[mi-fu]

The fact that China is taking some pretty extreme measures to try to contain a virus that is "no worse than the 'flu" is what concerns me, not whatever the media is saying.

You mean the Chinese govt overreacted?

 

[ta240]

Just hope Americans keep their eye on the ball instead of being overly distracted by where and what's going on with the coronavirus: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...deadlier-than-wuhan-china-disease/4564133002/

80,000 people in the US died of the flu in the 2017/2018 flu season: https://www.statnews.com/2018/09/26/cdc-us-flu-deaths-winter/ Compared to 800 people dying during the SARS outbreak: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/23/world/asia/coronavirus-victims-wuhan.html

Focus on best practices for avoiding the flu, and you'll do more to help yourself and prevent the death of others than you will tracking and worrying about the coronavirus.

I think a lot of people ignore warnings about how bad the flu can be because they confuse the flu with a bad cold. Once they get bad cold with a stuffy head, cough and drop in energy level they think they have the flu. I hear so many people complaining about getting the flu when they were up and moving around the entire time. The actual flu knocks you on your ***.

 

[Ron Texas]

It's a conspiracy.

 

[raistlin65]

I think a lot of people ignore warnings about how bad the flu can be because they confuse the flu with a bad cold. Once they get bad cold with a stuffy head, cough and drop in energy level they think they have the flu. I hear so many people complaining about getting the flu when they were up and moving around the entire time. The actual flu knocks you on your ***.

That's not accurate. A bad case of the flu can. But if someone has some partial immunity, it won't necessarily "knock them on their ***." In fact, that's what happens with the flu vaccines. Sometimes people get the flu, but symptoms are much less severe.

But I agree. People probably do ignore warnings because they aren't thinking about the potential for how bad it can be.

 

[mi-fu]

It's a conspiracy.

What is the conspiracy?

 

[Wes]

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/01/mining-coronavirus-genomes-clues-outbreak-s-origins

 

[flowjm]

You mean the Chinese govt overreacted?

No, I meant that their actions speak louder than the words of the media.

 

[RayDunzl]

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsa...-medical-center-from-scratch-in-under-2-weeks

Start: Ground was broken on Jan. 24

End: This aerial photo was taken on February 2, the day before Huoshenshan hospital was scheduled to open as a treatment center for coronavirus patients.

Maybe we should put China in charge of terraforming Mars.

 

[GeorgeWalk]

I have been tracking it here. I was supposed to fly to S. Korea this week, but the customer canceled all visits by outside vendors. Also, one of the largest semiconductor trade shows in the world, SEMICON Korea in Seoul, was canceled this week due to corona.

https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

Meanwhile:

 

[Doodski]

The insides of the new hospital look like a prison c/w bars on the windows. Almost like shipping container modularity in the construction. I don't think this hospital has a good foundation to keep everything straight over time.

 

[Wes]

impressive construction speed, but likely inadequate to handle just the local epidemic

 

[flowjm]

Start: Ground was broken on Jan. 24

End: This aerial photo was taken on February 2, the day before Huoshenshan hospital was scheduled to open as a treatment center for coronavirus patients.

Maybe we should put China in charge of terraforming Mars.

And the ancient Egyptians managed to get the pyramids built and no-one knows how. It's impressive what you can do with a bit of slave labour.

 

[g29]

FWIW, Khadas has shut down completely till the latter part of February.

 

[g29]

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsa...-medical-center-from-scratch-in-under-2-weeks

Start: Ground was broken on Jan. 24

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End: This aerial photo was taken on February 2, the day before Huoshenshan hospital was scheduled to open as a treatment center for coronavirus patients.

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Maybe we should put China in charge of terraforming Mars.

Saw the YouTube video of that today. 8 days is amazing. It would take 10 years to just get the permits in California to make sure no endangered weeds would get eradicated. I wonder if any of those buildings have actual footings.

Also, anyone notice there are coincidentally no more protests ???