Johnb
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Very ambitious. That should delay the onset of dementia!!!Corrected. Multitasking by watching the news and typing at the same time.
Very ambitious. That should delay the onset of dementia!!!Corrected. Multitasking by watching the news and typing at the same time.
Why can’t people understand engineering quality performance is not a synonym for audibility quality performance to not conflate the two and be more precise in what they say?
After WWII the SS fled to New Zealand and took over the Customs. I nearly got strip searched by a cheap nylon-wearing bureaucrat (and her teenage side kick who was surely the North Island Acne champion) for bringing in a coral necklace. Then I made the blunder by telling them I had a connecting flight - music to their ears.I've lived in Germany and spent a few weeks in Sydney and Cairns, and I much prefer the second as well. The huge negative of Australia is how far is, and their fu..ing customs. They worsen the effects of distance. Open customs like in HK would make AU much better.
Exactly, that's how it was for me after almost 40 years of wrestling with all the physical, technical, and convenience issues with vinyl. To this day I still can't understand the fad of vinyl resurgence. BLAH.. LOL
Why should a manufacturer spend the money and time to engineer for excellence in measured performance if no one holds them accountable - and if no one cares?
Amir, I have followed this thread carefully and with interest. I know as much about electric engineering as you know of the Venus Variation of 15th Century Indian Rope Dancing. My comments are therefore - shall we say - Political. Think N Korea. When the dude with the haircut issues rhetoric it is ostensibly addressed to the the old dude with the colored orange hair. In reality it is directed to his own subjects. It is the Shakespearean game of speaking while knowing you have eavesdroppers.Looks like the designer, Ted Smith went to the same school of PR that Schiit has with these comments on their forum:
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Picks random things? Your website shows THD and IM distortions.
He is in a very tough position. Unlike software where you can quick go and fix things and release it quickly, with hardware you are stuck. Even if he can change the design, it is not in the cards and at any rate, will take forever to roll out. So in the interim he is trying to keep the boat afloat with enough technical talk to be ahead of the audience. To admit a mistake in the design of this product is a bridge too far for most designers. Personal pride and the amount of money at stake is too much to just accept the facts as they are.Do you believe that is a conscious effort to actively deceive his followers? Does he know better?
If so, that's just fundamental dishonesty. If not, is he some kind of simple charlatan? Any other options?
I appreciate that advice. I don't mind addressing any technical comment provided because it is another educational opportunity to explain things. I try to keep my answers informative. And any rate, I don't want any counter technical argument left unanswered. Audiophiles deserve to see answers when they exist.All a bit sad really - my perception is that you are providing a service to the audiophile community. It appears that you are stepping on some toes. It is difficult for them to react appropriately. It is not my place to give advice to the people who's toes have been misaligned but my mother taught me this: (oh and this is great way as many defence counsel will attest). Keep quiet.
I think the worst thing about all these bad products that find their way to you is that good design doesn't cost any more than bad design. Sure a more expensive unit may have better parts, and a fancy expensive case, but some people would still rest easy with the purchase if only the product were well designed b/c they like their components to be audiophile jewelry. But when the fancy price combines with performance handily exceeded by any number of far lower priced units, that's nothing but a rip off.I appreciate that advice. I don't mind addressing any technical comment provided because it is another educational opportunity to explain things. I try to keep my answers informative. And any rate, I don't want any counter technical argument left unanswered. Audiophiles deserve to see answers when they exist.
I wish every designer in audio cared about excellence and faithfulness in sound reproduction so I did not have to do this work. But we have lost our way for so long that there has been mad gold rush to build products that no longer consider the word "high fidelity" to have any meaning. By having no third-party scrutiny of their design and execution, combined with false methods of subjective audio listening, they are going south when they should be going north. I don't know any other industry that is so left alone to actually go counter purpose to its stated goal.
What they should know is that no matter how fast I review products, more is constantly coming. If I were them, I would buy proper audio analyzers, learn how to perform correct listening tests and build better products. Maybe then, I review their product as a result of that kind of due diligence, not before.
The banality of choosing professionally engineered equipment pales in comparison.
Why can’t people understand engineering quality performance is not a synonym for audibility quality performance to not conflate the two and be more precise in what they say?
I think the worst thing about all these bad products that find their way to you is that good design doesn't cost any more than bad design. Sure a more expensive unit may have better parts, and a fancy expensive case, but some people would still rest easy with the purchase if only the product were well designed b/c they like their components to be audiophile jewelry. But when the fancy price combines with performance handily exceeded by any number of far lower priced units, that's nothing but a rip off.
Peter Aczel was one of my biggest influences. I was a charter subscriber to the Audio Critic, and some of the products he pointed me in the direction of included Rogers LS 3/5as, the Hafler DH 200, the Fidelity Research FR 64s tonearm (which I paid over $1100 for in 1977 at age 24), and the Benchmark DAC 1.You can never quote Peter Aczel too mant times! I still regularly read the old Audio Critic magazines and it is really both very sad and telling that his general observations could be written today and be just as true. And then audiophiles wonder why the hobby is dismissed as a bubble of snake oil by so many people.
gorgeous - but I prefer the point-to-point wired Quicksilver and Music Reference products - and they have both tested well in Stereophile:
http://quicksilveraudio.com
http://ramlabs-musicreference.com
Plenty of love, but I find their aesthetic and machining skills to be a distant second to AR's. Plus small 2" VU vs full 15" wide edge-lit VU on glass... no comparison.
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Why can’t people understand engineering quality performance is not a synonym for audibility quality performance to not conflate the two and be more precise in what they say?
Ok, I am ducking out before rotten eggs and tomatoes head my way.
Ooo Ooo, Look what I just found! Don't want to take this thread too off topic so I started a new thread.
JBL has made the 705/8's purdy, passive, and bigger.
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/new-jbl-and-revel-speaker-lines.9162/
I appreciate that advice. I don't mind addressing any technical comment provided because it is another educational opportunity to explain things. I try to keep my answers informative. And any rate, I don't want any counter technical argument left unanswered. Audiophiles deserve to see answers when they exist.
I wish every designer in audio cared about excellence and faithfulness in sound reproduction so I did not have to do this work. But we have lost our way for so long that there has been mad gold rush to build products that no longer consider the word "high fidelity" to have any meaning. By having no third-party scrutiny of their design and execution, combined with false methods of subjective audio listening, they are going south when they should be going north. I don't know any other industry that is so left alone to actually go counter purpose to its stated goal.
What they should know is that no matter how fast I review products, more is constantly coming. If I were them, I would buy proper audio analyzers, learn how to perform correct listening tests and build better products. Maybe then, I review their product as a result of that kind of due diligence, not before.