My artifact is bigger than yours .I was making a joke. Anyway I feel superior to most people here because I design speakers so I argue about distortion artifacts at -40db.
My artifact is bigger than yours .I was making a joke. Anyway I feel superior to most people here because I design speakers so I argue about distortion artifacts at -40db.
Sounds like Cosmik's signature line applies.
Digital audio is a rare example of a perfect technology. It has given audiophiles everything they want, and now they are bored.
How big was the rock?
Moving my hand to a different position measurably changes frequency response in-room.
Ok, this is not really a question. More of an assertion and a suggestion.
Listening to music is a hobby with very few table stakes. You are either happy or not happy with what you hear.
Some people are happy for weird reasons (let’s put that in the subjectivist bucket) and some people are happy for provable reasons (objectivist bucket). But why the endless threads about it?
Why so much passion? Why so many (predominantly) males asserting or arguing?
Perhaps we need a chill pill. It’s really fun to look at the data (that’s why we are on ASR) and it’s really fun to explore why X does Y.
Maybe we can keep it at that without being heated. Maybe we can manage to have personal opinions without being overtly decisive. Especially on this forum.
Whether we talk about MQA or DSD, perhaps we can just smile and remember that we have a basic goal of hearing music that is nice, and that is enough.
The measurements - pro and con - are just another level in having fun in this hobby.
My artifact is bigger than yours .
The thing is harman target sounds considerably worse than etymotic er4. There is no mean to choose 200hz and below as bass. Causing a lot of confusion. And the high frequency roll off is also problematic which is not the case of real world.
To prove, just use a pair of eqed studio monitors and use ear to eq the earphone. The end result will be much closer to etymotic than harman.
The process we used is use a collection of songs to define bass and mid range (probably 7k and below)
and to use sine wave generator to eq 7khz + . I use to like harman and sean olive. But they proceed to make n5005 and n700 which sound horrible and don't even represent harman target at all. And there is no reason to believe that the original speaker eqed curve has rolled off highs. That's just wrong. More so, the newer iem target is just getting worse and worse. Completely out of controlly wrong. Yes I'm angry. Because they doesn't fucking know shit.
Harbeth really aren’t that coloured, just a slight burr.I'm always surprised at how angry people can get at gear that other people recommend or like. What did the gear do to them?
I now have Harbeth speakers, which appear to be a love 'em or hate 'em brand. The CEO leans heavily objectivist, which may have something to do with it. When I mention I like them, people come roaring out of dark corners to say they are "shitboxes" with "no bass" and "Only if you like highly colored, inaccurate sound". What's interesting is that almost none have heard the model I own, a few of them have heard Harbeths only years ago, and the loudest voices have never listened to Harbeths at all, but have made up their mind based on the 'lossy' cabinet design. And not one complaining about inaccuracy brings up measurements.
So what motivates people to do that? Loyalty y to a particular school of speaker design?
I now have Harbeth speakers, which appear to be a love 'em or hate 'em brand. The CEO leans heavily objectivist, which may have something to do with it. When I mention I like them, people come roaring out of dark corners to say they are "shitboxes" with "no bass" and "Only if you like highly colored, inaccurate sound". What's interesting is that almost none have heard the model I own, a few of them have heard Harbeths only years ago, and the loudest voices have never listened to Harbeths at all, but have made up their mind based on the 'lossy' cabinet design. And not one complaining about inaccuracy brings up measurements.
A pair of Harbeths were the only set of speakers that made me pay attention at the Audio Show back in February.
Speakers are a highly personal decision since they mostly sound different from one another. If they don't agree with that particular choice of a system sound, in their opinion you are in error and need to be informed of that error. Don't pay any attention.So what motivates people to do that? Loyalty y to a particular school of speaker design?
Having local stores that sell Harbeth (and having owned a pair of Harbeth) I can't pass by a pair of Harbeth speakers playing music. I'm immediately sucked in and have to listen. "Natural sounding" is the impression that comes to my mind.
Simply, money.Why so much passion? Why so many (predominantly) males asserting or arguing?
I have seen DBT test where people couldn’t differentiate between 420k mp3 and FLAC of the same recording.