SMSL DO200 MKII DAC Review

[BR52]

Is the bad out band filtering caused by MQA support?

 

[tubesguy]

Who in 2023 buys a DAC with less than 121.4 SINAD?

 

[VintageFlanker]

Thanks, @amirm !

What about Jitter through S/PDIF, both toslink and coax? USB is usually not very discriminating.

Who in 2023 buys a DAC with less than 121.4 SINAD?

Tons of people. The vast majority, actually. 121.4dB SINAD is plain useless for most use cases, BTW.

 

[BR52]

No Panther until now?

 

[_thelaughingman]

121.4dB SINAD is plain useless for most use cases, BTW.

Truth!!

 

[Steamrolly]

And the DO300 is following directly behind, for those who want a newer DAC chip.
DO300

 

[BR52]

The smsl do 200 has unfortunately MQA as well, see here: https://www.smsl-audio.com/portal/product/detail/id/803.html.

 

[Steamrolly]

The smsl do 200 has unfortunately MQA as well, see here: https://www.smsl-audio.com/portal/product/detail/id/803.html.

Yes, you are correct, thanks. Edit completed.

 

[respice finem]

No Panther until now?

He's gone shopping

 

[BR52]

He's gone shopping

An RME ?

 

[doug2761]

Wish it had a trigger out. Interesting to see the price points creeping higher. Yes, some more features and all that so no complaints. Except that I wish it had a trigger out.

 

[BR52]

The E70 measures better has a trigger and 150 bucks less. But no AES/EBU, I²C.

 

[respice finem]

An RME ?

but seriously, 30% price increase for the RME is really hefty...

 

[GeekyBastard]

I like that it uses the “correct” filter at factory default settings, and it does its job nicely, hopefully more product would do the same in the future.

 

[Marcos Mazur]

It seems to measure well, I have read reviews about this DAC and they are all very positive, in this case, would that be a comfortable and brightless sound, which is interesting to me, but... are there any downsides to the sound quality that I haven't noticed?
From what I see here there is considerable noise from 30k onwards and in this case it wouldn't be a problem, it's under -130 dB and so on, right?
Without wanting to be annoying, but I just ask, this is certainly inaudible in normal hearing, but in this case, could this noise well below the audible cause some roughness? this occurred to me now because I remembered the Allo Revolution DAC, where the manufacturer comments that he tried to make noise and distortion as low as possible, even if a good part of the noise is inaudible, it ends up being ''felt'' in a way and causing fatigue .
I believe that most speakers do not reproduce exactly anything beyond 20k, the same for human hearing, right? or I didn't quite understand this question and why this review showed this noise above 20k.
I realize that I practically don't even hear the 18k for example in a frequency test, but that's all I feel a evident annoyance even when I forget the frequency is ringing, which means that in a way I hear it but in an extremely subtle way.

 

[BR52]

It seems to measure well, I have read reviews about this DAC and they are all very positive, in this case, would that be a comfortable and brightless sound, which is interesting to me, but... are there any downsides to the sound quality that I haven't noticed?
From what I see here there is considerable noise from 30k onwards and in this case it wouldn't be a problem, it's under -130 dB and so on, right?
Without wanting to be annoying, but I just ask, this is certainly inaudible in normal hearing, but in this case, could this noise well below the audible cause some roughness? this occurred to me now because I remembered the Allo Revolution DAC, where the manufacturer comments that he tried to make noise and distortion as low as possible, even if a good part of the noise is inaudible, it ends up being ''felt'' in a way and causing fatigue .
I believe that most speakers do not reproduce exactly anything beyond 20k, the same for human hearing, right? or I didn't quite understand this question and why this review showed this noise above 20k.
I realize that I practically don't even hear the 18k for example in a frequency test, but that's all I feel a evident annoyance even when I forget the frequency is ringing, which means that in a way I hear it but in an extremely subtle way.

Could you see the wide band noise test -96 dB Hmm.

 

[amper42]

I'm tired of these DAC's without features like loudness and EQ. Would rather own the RME ADI-2 FS DAC with better remote and awesome features. And Amazon has it for $1039.

https://www.amazon.com/RME-Converter-ADI-2-DAC-FS/dp/B081CWQXGD

 

[respice finem]

I'm tired of these DAC's without features like loudness and EQ. Would rather own the RME ADI-2 FS DAC with better remote and awesome features. And Amazon has it for $1039.

https://www.amazon.com/RME-Converter-ADI-2-DAC-FS/dp/B081CWQXGD

A possible catch: Since this would be a re-import for a European customer, he might have to pay tax.
The prices from German shops are for now:

https://www.amazon.de/RME-ADI-2-Pro-FS-Black/dp/B083SSDF42/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3LLNSYKQNJBRJ&keywords=rme+adi-2+dac+fs&qid=1674839148&sprefix=rme+adi%2Caps%2C105&sr=8-2

https://www.amazon.de/RME-ADI-2-DAC-FS-Version/dp/B081CWQXGD/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3LLNSYKQNJBRJ&keywords=rme+adi-2+dac+fs&qid=1674839148&sprefix=rme+adi%2Caps%2C105&sr=8-1

RME ADI-2 DAC FS

RME ADI-2 DAC FS; High-End DA-Wandler & Kopfhörerverstärker mit ESS Chip (ab Juni 2021); Sampleraten: 44.1 kHz bis zu 768 kHz; High-Resolution Wiedergabe von PCM, DXD und DSD mit bis zu 768 kHz; SteadyClock FS; LCD-Display; AutoDark Funktion für...

www.thomann.de

But yes, even so, it has more features (which is why I got it)

 

[BR52]

A possible catch: Since this would be a re-import for a European customer, he might have to pay tax.
The prices from German shops are for now:

https://www.amazon.de/RME-ADI-2-Pro-FS-Black/dp/B083SSDF42/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3LLNSYKQNJBRJ&keywords=rme+adi-2+dac+fs&qid=1674839148&sprefix=rme+adi%2Caps%2C105&sr=8-2

https://www.amazon.de/RME-ADI-2-DAC-FS-Version/dp/B081CWQXGD/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3LLNSYKQNJBRJ&keywords=rme+adi-2+dac+fs&qid=1674839148&sprefix=rme+adi%2Caps%2C105&sr=8-1

RME ADI-2 DAC FS

RME ADI-2 DAC FS; High-End DA-Wandler & Kopfhörerverstärker mit ESS Chip (ab Juni 2021); Sampleraten: 44.1 kHz bis zu 768 kHz; High-Resolution Wiedergabe von PCM, DXD und DSD mit bis zu 768 kHz; SteadyClock FS; LCD-Display; AutoDark Funktion für...

www.thomann.de

But yes, even so, it has more features (which is why I got it)

We are more of topic now. Would be great SMSL, Topping and all others read the hundreds posts repeating the
same message. And for us (customer) a little competition would be great technology and price wise.

 

[prerich]

Voted fine....it's another SMSL dac......