Which speaker with the RAAL did you show?
Let's note that the Tekton's vertical response mostly reflects the interaction between wide woofer spacing & XO implementation, not the tweeter array's inherent dispersion. IOW, any MTM with that spacing & XO would show similar verticals. The tweeter array's dispersion can be seen more clearly in the horizontal polars.
Note also that I have assumed it's wired as a pseudo-coaxial. This link shows how arrays can allow different performance in different directions, if the designer is patient & stubborn!
The Revels are very nice. The 3-way Monitor Audio towers Kal Rubinson reviewed in Stereophile both measured very well on and off axis. I would prefer them to a Raal tweeter speaker, because I don't like the disappearing-when-you-stand-up treble effect from the Raal ribbon.
I reviewed and measured the last generation Monitor Audio Silver-series stand mount. It had excellent on axis measurements but cried out for a waveguide on the tweeter to be truly transparent sounding.
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Yes I read that review. I was originally looking at the Monitor Audio Silver 100 and got the Revel Concerta 2 M16 stand mounts. They look and sound amazing connected to the new Sonos Amp. But now I'm going back and forth on do I want towers or not. I'm listening to the Revels now with a Sonos sub connected to the Sonos Amp and they sound so good.
What have I done to deserve that????I hope Amir can test some Pyle products.
What have I done to deserve that????
I like the Magnepan speakers at almost every price point. The 1.7i would be my choice. If they want big movie bass, I would go with 0.7's and a powered subwoofer with DSP, like the SVS series.
I own Magnepan 1.7is myself and I enjoy the big sound, but I'm not sure they're very accurate. I haven't seen any measurements of anything newer than the 1.6qr/3.6r on Stereophile but they didn't look particularly good. Actually, even though I'm not a trained listener, those measurements track with my subjective experience before even seeing them, which is that the midrange is great, but the highs and low-mid bass seem off.
The other thing is that I think a sub is basically mandatory if you like to play music loudly or anywhere near reference level for movies/tv. Without the sub(I have an SVS SB12) it doesn't take much for me to drive them to panel slap or weird distortion/resonance below 60hz or so. That low rumble effect that is popular and explosions can definitely cause issues.
I'm actually curious about how the 'big sound' of Magnepans is quantifiable and how you can get the same effect with multi-channel upsampling as Dr. Toole has mentioned in a couple of places, or whether some non-planar floorstanders in general are capable of it.
I own Magnepan 1.7is myself and I enjoy the big sound, but I'm not sure they're very accurate. I haven't seen any measurements of anything newer than the 1.6qr/3.6r on Stereophile but they didn't look particularly good. Actually, even though I'm not a trained listener, those measurements track with my subjective experience before even seeing them, which is that the midrange is great, but the highs and low-mid bass seem off.
The other thing is that I think a sub is basically mandatory if you like to play music loudly or anywhere near reference level for movies/tv. Without the sub(I have an SVS SB12) it doesn't take much for me to drive them to panel slap or weird distortion/resonance below 60hz or so. That low rumble effect that is popular and explosions can definitely cause issues.
I'm actually curious about how the 'big sound' of Magnepans is quantifiable and how you can get the same effect with multi-channel upsampling as Dr. Toole has mentioned in a couple of places, or whether some non-planar floorstanders in general are capable of it.
If you're looking for in-room accuracy, our member @RayDunzl has done some amazing things using AcoruateDRC and MartinLogan panels plus subwoofers. Maybe he'll stop by a post a link or so to his REW files.I own Magnepan 1.7is myself and I enjoy the big sound, but I'm not sure they're very accurate. I haven't seen any measurements of anything newer than the 1.6qr/3.6r on Stereophile but they didn't look particularly good.
I very much doubt that the Magnepans will be capable of similar performance.If you're looking for in-room accuracy, our member @RayDunzl has done some amazing things using AcoruateDRC and MartinLogan panels plus subwoofers. Maybe he'll stop by a post a link or so to his REW files.
If you're looking for in-room accuracy, our member @RayDunzl has done some amazing things using AcoruateDRC and MartinLogan panels plus subwoofers. Maybe he'll stop by a post a link or so to his REW files.
This sounds interesting but I was under the impression from various other posts that you need anechoic measurements to properly EQ speaker response, and also that measuring near-field on planars and trying to use it as a replacement for anechoic response is problematic in general.
Sounds like a post-purchase rationalization.
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As you can see, there are significantly better options for the price. LS50 is a nice loudspeaker and KEF made a great job marketing it, but let's stick to reality here.
I don't think the 8030a is still around, the 8030c is. Frankly I think you are making a post purchase rationalization yourself. There are tons of LS50's in use and I don't hear anyone complaining. Besides, I am not sure what those graphs prove, who did them or under what conditions. Or, is this another version of the active/passive debate. Genelec has a great reputation, but to say the LS50 is a product of marketing is political.
The LS50 suffers from a mismatch in dispersion at 2kHz that manifests as an off-axis peak and elevated listening window response 2-5kHz. This is unacceptably-flawed engineering.