CHORD M-Scaler Review (Upsampler)

[Guettel]

That’s not how placebos work.

If you can't hear or don't like what it does, don't buy it. Not sure why this is hard for you.

 

[Purité Audio]

If you compared two systems ( one with one without) unsighted and level matched you wouldn’t buy it either.
Keith

 

[ahofer]

If you can't hear or don't like what it does, don't buy it. Not sure why this is hard for you.

What you are saying isn’t hard for me, it’s the intentional conflation of non-aural and aural phenomena as a means of discrediting measurements to judge the latter as deficient. .

 

[staticV3]

If you can't hear or don't like what it does, don't buy it. Not sure why this is hard for you.

The Dave (+Mscaler) sounds not an ounce more HiFi than some $100 DAC from China. Not sure why this is hard for you to understand. Sunk cost fallacy perhaps?

 

[JustJones]

I think the point of the review is to show what the DUT does. It doesn't appear to do much of anything. Why is that so hard to grasp?

 

[Guettel]

If you compared two systems ( one with one without) unsighted and level matched you wouldn’t buy it either.
Keith

I did and would.

To say you know what someone else would do is obviously complete silliness.

 

[Guettel]

The Dave (+Mscaler) sounds not an ounce more HiFi than some $100 DAC from China. Not sure why this is hard for you to understand. Sunk cost fallacy perhaps?

If you can't hear the difference, then do what best suits your budget. That's what we all do, after all.

 

[Guettel]

What you are saying isn’t hard for me, it’s the intentional conflation of non-aural and aural phenomena as a means of discrediting measurements to judge the latter as deficient. .

No one's discrediting measurements. If measurements are what matters to you, great. To me what matters is how it sounds.

 

[VQR]

It definitely IS expensive for most people. It's only a placebo for people who can't hear what it does or think what it does doesn't justify the cost compared to their own financial means.

"I come to a science-based forum, people tell me there is no objective reason for the M-Scaler to improve my audio, and I provide no evidence to the contrary. Why do people tell me I'm only hearing my placebo?"

 

[ahofer]

No one's discrediting measurements. If measurements are what matters to you, great. To me what matters is how it sounds.

Master Thread: Are measurements Everything or Nothing?

…. I propose a mechanism why that may sharpen the leading wavefronts and produce music with a little more punch as a result. Add this to the rhythm chords, and you may find the music has more drive. (Or not - we could test!) … I doubt it… More harmonics make it sound louder at the same SPL...

www.audiosciencereview.com

 

[Guettel]

"I come to a science-based forum, people tell me there is no objective reason for the M-Scaler to improve my audio, and I provide no evidence to the contrary. Why do people tell me I'm only hearing my placebo?"

The only evidence I and nearly all audio buyers need is that is gear sound good. And to me and many, many others, this particular gear sounds fantastic.

If you don't hear a difference, no biggie. Buy something you like.

 

[Guettel]

Master Thread: Are measurements Everything or Nothing?

…. I propose a mechanism why that may sharpen the leading wavefronts and produce music with a little more punch as a result. Add this to the rhythm chords, and you may find the music has more drive. (Or not - we could test!) … I doubt it… More harmonics make it sound louder at the same SPL...

www.audiosciencereview.com

Were you trying to make some point?

 

[NiagaraPete]

No one's discrediting measurements. If measurements are what matters to you, great. To me what matters is how it sounds.

And what qualifies you to tell us it sounds better?

 

[Guettel]

And what qualifies you to tell us it sounds better?

I'm only saying it sounds better to me. If you can't hear it or can hear it but don't like it, great. Buy something else.

 

[NiagaraPete]

I'm only saying it sounds better to me. If you can't hear it or can hear it but don't like it, great. Buy something else.

So your opinion is trust me. I trust that the measurements tell the truth.

Someone once said “there’s a sucker born every minute”, seems it’s true.

 

[Guettel]

So your opinion is trust me. I trust that the measurements tell the truth.

Someone once said “there’s a sucker born every minute”, seems it’s true.

No, my opinion is trust you. To you, truth is measurements. To me, truth is how it sounds.

Perhaps you buy audio gear to measure, I don't know. I buy audio gear to listen to.

 

[amirm]

If you don't can't perceive a better experience from things, then by all means, don't buy them.

We are not but you seem intent in convincing us otherwise. This is silly as we have already said what is required to convince us: ears only, controlled listening tests. Anything else involves non sound factors which don't last past the immediate AB tests you are doing.

 

[amirm]

No, my opinion is trust you. To you, truth is measurements. To me, truth is how it sounds.

But you don't know how it sounds. You know what your total experience involving all your other senses and other factors is. Come back with proper sound impressions and our ears will perk up instantly. Keep saying that you performed a totally improper evaluation of sound and it is just the same, broken, anti-science and engineering claim by non-technical folks.

 

[DonR]

The measurements are objective, i.e. free from bias. Your ears are subjective, i.e. tainted by bias.

 

[voodooless]

I did and would.

If by “I did” you mean: you skipped though the modes and heard a difference, you actually did not. It’s clear that the modes are not level matched. Therefore a simple switching isn’t sufficient to compare.