I’ve read quite a bit about this company sustainability and I doubt very much anything in a Genelec comes from China. Feel free to prove me wrong.Their speakers may be assembled there but many of their drivers are mAnufactured in China.
Keith
I’ve read quite a bit about this company sustainability and I doubt very much anything in a Genelec comes from China. Feel free to prove me wrong.Their speakers may be assembled there but many of their drivers are mAnufactured in China.
Keith
Yes. Everything is not made in-house.Their speakers may be assembled there but many of their drivers are mAnufactured in China.
Keith
The 8000 drivers are custom made for Genelec by Tymphany. They have better motors than the peerless HDS drivers they share the shassie with. The ones drivers are made in the factory.I think the 8000 series drivers are outsourced and Ones drivers are made in house
To be clear, this is not true for the Ones. The drivers for the 83X1 series are made in-house.Their speakers may be assembled there but many of their drivers are mAnufactured in China.
They can move the production to China and make the products more affordable(not that I support it)
Actually that 20% is critical for someone like me and could mean i could buy them or not buy anything at allTo be clear, this is not true for the Ones. The drivers for the 83X1 series are made in-house.
Not that there is anything wrong with parts coming from China. I'm sure they aren't making their PCBs in-house from raw sand either It's really at final assembly and testing/QA where quality of manufacture is assured.
Why would it drive down prices? Prices are about market fit, not manufacturing costs. Kef actives are made in China, and most likely to a lower standard. Are their active speakers way cheaper than Genelec? Nope. The LS60 is $3500/ea, the LS50 II is $1400/ea and it's a 2-way! You'd maybe get prices lower by 20% or something. That wouldn't change the market for the speakers at all because no one is saying "ah yes I can afford $4K per speaker but not $5K!!!"
It would be hard to justify not buying anything at all when you could buy the next model down the Genelec range.Actually that 20% is critical for someone like me and could mean i could buy them or not buy anything at all
But yeah i agree with you in general.
Cool set up!“For me, multi-channel audio is the most enjoyable way to experience music, and I'll listen this way whenever I can. I feel like it's impossible to go back entirely to stereo after you've heard a decent multi-channel system!”
Beyond High Fidelity - Genelec visits Markku Lohvansuu - Genelec.com
We recently caught up with audiophile and experienced Genelec user, Markku Lohvansuu from Oulu, Finland, to check out his home listening setup and find out more about his passion for sound.www.genelec.com
Thats very tempting but it shouldnt be deciding factor to be perfect speakers. For music listening, there are some other important things like non-fatigue, instrument reality etc. I myself am inclined but hesitant to choose 8361.Just a little anecdote…a good friend of mine came over tonight to hear my ‘61s. He has a pair of Heresy III’s at home he listen to music on. After hearing the ‘61s play some music he was familiar with, he was speechless for a minute, then he said “Well, there’s two instruments in that song I didn’t even know were there..” True story, lol.
Frequency deviations can certainly push out elements in a mix/song/track that had not previously been heard before. ;-)Thats very tempting but it shouldnt be deciding factor to be perfect speakers. For music listening, there are some other important things like non-fatigue, instrument reality etc. I myself am inclined but hesitant to choose 8361.
Thats very tempting but it shouldnt be deciding factor to be perfect speakers. For music listening, there are some other important things like non-fatigue, instrument reality etc. I myself am inclined but hesitant to choose 8361.
I have heard 8331 at dealers place. Same style as my previous 8320 with more details and better image of course, but I wasn't impressed. At that moment I even thought 8320 had way better value considering the price. 8361 should be much better but I won't expect it has different house sound.Have you had an opportunity to hear a pair of them, or any of the Ones series?
Although I must say that I haven't heard the 8320, 8331 or 8361, I have heard the 8030 and own 3 way speakers; what you heard is pretty much what I would expect.I have heard 8331 at dealers place. Same style as my previous 8320 with more details and better image of course, but I wasn't impressed. At that moment I even thought 8320 had way better value considering the price. 8361 should be much better but I won't expect it has different house sound.
One benefit of the Ones might be that , according to Genelec, a concentric driver helps to prevent listener fatigue : https://www.genelec.com/8331aThats very tempting but it shouldnt be deciding factor to be perfect speakers. For music listening, there are some other important things like non-fatigue, instrument reality etc. I myself am inclined but hesitant to choose 8361.
AFAICT you are misquoting Genelec, at least as far as that link quotes them.according to Genelec, a concentric driver helps to prevent listener fatigue : https://www.genelec.com/8331a
Curiosity got the best of me.
I listened to the Genelec 8351 today and all I can say is: stunning! There is no other word for it. The imaging, clarity is beyond compare, at least as far as I have experienced. Between the 8030 and the 8351 is a big gap imo. Well worth it.
Any negatives? Hardly. Old well recorded music sounds great. Modern music sound great. Only badly produced music sounds really bad. I'm not talking about compression, but pop music that was just over processed. Like Rita Ora's New Look for example. The rest was absolute pure realism that made me forget about all of the equipment and just enjoy the music and performance. I'll say it again: stunning.
Ps: they didn't have the 8361; therefore I chose the 8351 to listen to.
I was listening at about 2,5 meters.Nice! Quick question: about how loud and how far away were you listening? I ask because the 8361 is on my "bucket list" but I don't listen to music super loud (usually 85dB or lower), I've never had or wanted subwoofers, and my listening position is about 2.5-3M from my speakers. Both the 8351 and 8361 are expensive, and I guess if I could swing $8k then I could also swing $10k, but still, $2k is a lot of money and I have wondered for a long time if I would really benefit from the '61s given my typical listening volume and use case.