Kevbaz
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Will have another look today I probably missed themMaybe, but they're easy to be overlooked. They were in the slim white paper envelope, together with the little manual.
Kev
Will have another look today I probably missed themMaybe, but they're easy to be overlooked. They were in the slim white paper envelope, together with the little manual.
they are extremely small and light. a small movement of air and they could be gone.Will have another look today I probably missed them
Kev
They come in a very small outer envelope (transparent), which, not being fixed with tape, can work as a "sail"...they are extremely small and light. a small movement of air and they could be gone.
ikko oh10 for jazz is killer for around $160.My only experience of a well-reviewed IEM is the BLON B03 which I am listening too right now and have owned for a few years. Apart from the supplied cable being replaced with a much nicer Yinyoo 8 core MMCX cable, I am very happy with the sound of the BL03. For £35 they were a steal for sure.
Having said that, I have just bought this Crinacle Zero off Amazon here in the UK (thanks Amir!) in the hope of experiencing even better sound at a low price.
Does anyone here have both so they can share their thoughts? BTW, I mainly listen to jazz.
Thanks.
Code:TRUTHEAR x Crinacle Zero Full APO EQ Flat@HF 96000Hz September142022-145558 Preamp: -3.9 dB Filter 1: ON PK Fc 20.00 Hz Gain 3.88 dB Q 0.90 Filter 2: ON PK Fc 81.44 Hz Gain -2.05 dB Q 1.46 Filter 3: ON PK Fc 1205.00 Hz Gain -1.23 dB Q 2.55 Filter 4: ON PK Fc 2175.35 Hz Gain -1.65 dB Q 0.85 Filter 5: ON PK Fc 4795.73 Hz Gain -2.97 dB Q 2.97 Filter 6: ON PK Fc 6699.00 Hz Gain 2.57 dB Q 2.64 Filter 7: ON PK Fc 13229.75 Hz Gain -4.98 dB Q 5.00
But, I was a little skeptical about whether I was hearing that much difference or the matching was helping. With correction like this, there's always the question of what frequency range to match, or whether to go for an average volume overall. I don't know what Ozone's gain matching is doing. I manually corrected the EQ path to +1 dB, which seemed a good compromise.
Now it was a lot harder to tell. I can hear the "improvement", it's just that I probably wouldn't notice in casual listening.
Update: couldn't get a proper seal with any of the supplied tips. Dug out my trusty Creative EP-630 earbuds, which always give me a great seal using their stock large tips, and noticed that the Creative's tips are shallower than the Zero's. Swapped the tips over and, hey presto, perfect seal and comfortable fit!These arrived yesterday. Tried them out at home and they seemed fine although the cable loop going round the ear is a bit of a faff.
Thought I'd gotten the correct seal, but when I took them on my commute this morning there was very little isolation from the outsight world. Also, just walking around made them gradually edge their way out of my ears. Need to work on the seal I think.
The cable is very quiet, which is good! Hope this isn't a case of good sound but a pain to use. Don't have the patience for that!
My dog watched me do this with her head tilted... watching her human pulling his ears, opening his mouth and sticking things in his ears... then smiling for the next hour. Thanks... this really worked and made an audible difference. I posted earlier that I shaved my head to promote a better headphone seal and minimize the IEM wire entangling in my hair... since receiving these a couple of days ago... my dog has seen me become a bald, ear pullin', mouth agape, grinning goofball. Thanks to you lunatics as enablers of this obviously degenerate behavior. Seize the Day.And as silly as it seems, try this: open your mouth, lift up your ear by the top with one hand (these both open up the ear canal), then insert the IEM with the other hand, and while still pushing them in snugly, close your mouth and let go of your ear (to 'close' back your ear canal around the tip).
Didn't even notice the pictures, thru it away anyway ...... The iems are quite good right out from my LG G7. Wish it be louder, will have to recurre to the adapter trick. The lows are really enjoyable, good tuning, listening to Griffin Paisley - Blink from Desert Trax 100: A Best Of by Various Artists, ..... just great!!!! Edit: tips are cheap and useless, changed them.It seems a bit exaggerated all this scandal around the image of the box.
You may like it or you may not like it, it is a reference to oriental manga culture, it is not necessary to see incitement to pedophilia or other stupid pages that I have read. The image itself is not even too erotic as some seem to claim.
Relax, it's just a drawing, if you don't like it, throw it away, but without creating all this scandal around.
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Having tested countless speakers, headphones and IEMs, this is the end of the road that you hope to reach. That any refinements of frequency response will be track dependent. For review purposes, I discard corrections beyond this point as it will be so variable. To the extent a transducer gets to this point with no EQ, job is done. Nothing more could be done really and the device is as excellent as it can be.But, this also demonstrates there is no recording that is somehow exactly right, no target that is exactly right, no EQ correction that is exactly right. If a particular EQ correction makes most of the music that you listed to sound better for you, that's the reason to use it. Not because someone told you the EQ makes it better. (To be clear, that is not the claim—the claim is the EQ gets it closer to the target curve, and that is a reasonable goal.)
My experience also - the foam tips were the only ones that gave a decent seal. And today they fell apart as I was trying to find something better, as they still weren't comfortable. So, the whole lot went in the bin - I think my dislike/discomfort with things stuck in my ears overrides the acoustic qualities.Some additional thoughts:
After spending more time with the IEMs I realized that they are very uncomfortable to wear due to their in-ear thickness. My ear canals were getting irritated. I really do think these are a tough fit for anyone that generally uses small sized tips. I was only able to use the foam sized tips and they began to fall apart very quickly, so that was an additional issue. It got to the point that I could not see myself using them. I never realized I had such small ear canals.
However, some good news: I purchased the following tips, which were recommended here (in size small): https://audio46.com/products/moondrop-mis-tip-t55-sponge-eartips
They made a big difference in comfort. They are just a little bit thinner than the supplied tips. While not as comfortable as other IEMs I've had, they are now usable to me. So if you feel like something is off, I recommend trying these.
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I was gonna say, how do you ensure polarity, and now when I look at mine I can see - you have to make sure the R or L printed on the cable is visible when the IEM is in your ears - in other words the lettering for left & right on the cable is on the outwards side of each IEM.The eagle has landed
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I will be able to do only basic listening testing right now (using my laptop), being in the process of moving house, and will edit this post when I'm done. So, take it with a pinch of salt, and please remember it's all subjective anyway.
Some general remarks: The included earpieces should fit everybody's ears - the first time the largest are too large for mine (approx. 9mm outer ear canal diameter). When connecting the cable, polarity is to be observed, obviously, and the manual shows how to connect it properly. The cable, arched at the last few cm, is supporting the fit of the IEMs nicely, so they're not likely to loosen up when I move my head. The cable itself is supple and not "microphonic". No "chemical" smell too after opening the package.
My sample came with a slightly asymmetrically mounted left "grille", IDK if it will be audible, I hope not. Am a bit anxious to try and push the "slanted" one (see pic) in deeper, yes, there is a spare pair included, but no idea how to get the mounted ones out... If I don't hear any asymmetry etc., I'm inclined to leave it as it is.
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OK, now I know how lousy a laptop's headphone output can be I'm hearing its idle noise already, and at maximum level it's not loud enough, oh well...
I guess I should not make definitive statements about the sound in this situation. I'll wait (up to 6 weeks alas), until everything is ready at my new location and then listen again, using a "serious" system. I'll report back again, if I can't edit this post any more, I'll do another.
A quick sound check seems OK, is the preliminary result. I can't hear any negative impact of the slightly slanted grille either.
Finding the right earpieces is a bit tricky though: The second largest pair proved to be still too large for me (I hear my own pulse), the third largest is bordering on too small (its thin "lip" probably still seals, but it feels like it doesn't). I decided to try the black foam pair (I guess this was the one used for testing) and this fit immediately. Seems to be something like memory foam. I feel like it made the bass tighter too, but not sure (see above). The catch: I don't hear my pulse with these, but I hear my muscles "working" to keep my jaw from falling (no sh!t) - luckily only when it's quiet and with no music playing. Probably this is normal, and I'm just not used to wearing IEMs, will try to adjust to it.
I tried the T-500 today and they are too small to fit onto these IEMs unfortunately. Anyone know what foam tips might fit?Can I use the Comply Isolation Series - 500 Core Memory tips?
I tried the T-500 today and they are too small to fit onto these IEMs unfortunately. Anyone know what foam tips might fit?